Boeing will plead guilty to a criminal fraud charge stemming from two deadly crashes of 737 Max jetliners after the government determined the company violated an agreement that had protected it from prosecution for more than three years, the Justice Department said Sunday night.
Federal prosecutors gave Boeing the choice this week of entering a guilty plea and paying a fine as part of its sentence or facing a trial on the felony criminal charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States.
Prosecutors accused the American aerospace giant of deceiving regulators who approved the airplane and pilot-training requirements for it.
The plea deal, which still must receive the approval of a federal judge to take effect, calls for Boeing to pay an additional $243.6 million fine. That was the same amount it paid under the 2021 settlement that the Justice Department said the company breached. An independent monitor would be named to oversee Boeing’s safety and quality procedures for three years.
The plea deal covers only wrongdoing by Boeing before the crashes, which killed all 346 passengers and crew members aboard two new Max jets. It does not give Boeing immunity for other incidents, including a panel that blew off a Max jetliner during an Alaska Airlines flight in January, a Justice Department official said.
So a bribe so nobody goes to jail…
A bribe with someone else’s money.
Pretty much.
America really loves protecting those upper management from taking responsibility!
I liked it better when large corps could go dark practically overnight, e.g. Enron. Andersen, et al.
And then the concept of “too big to fail” was born.
Too big to fail means too big to exist, you’re a defacto monopoly and need to be broken apart if you’re too big to fail.
Does duopoly count, the only competitor is Airbus
Being monopolistic does not mean you have no competitors, but that you are big enough to adversely affect the free market so that you can’t be competed with.
So yeah, it counts, and so does Apple for example.
More specifically, the government got Enron but the PR campaign waged by corporate lobbyists is directly responsible for the milquetoast prosecutions since then. They actually got a majority of Americans to believe the government was at fault for people losing their jobs and pensions. The pensions that were already embezzled. And the jobs that were already getting cut because the embezzling was starting in on the corporation.
The people who need to be held accountable, won’t be. They’ll continue to live in lavish luxury without any repercussions.
It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.
The system is broken
The system is working perfectly as intended.
Saw it coming. This article could almost be a re post
Pleading to avoid criminal charges regarding cases where people died should not be a thing…
Corporations are not people when it’s convenient
“Sometimes doing what’s right isn’t as important as doing what’s profitable”
Boeing made $76B in revenue in 2023. This is slightly more than 1 day’s revenue for them ($210M / day) or a bit more than 10 days profit for them ($21M / day). They will keep doing what they’re doing, but increase their spending on a PR campaign to improve their public image.
Exactly. This is like if you charged the average person $1 for causing a major motorway accident.
It’s a joke of a fine in the face of Boeing’s profits - basically telling them they can get away with severe and wreckless disregard for human life in return for just over a week’s profits.
You make 1$/day?
No, but it’s on a similar scale as far as Boeing is concerned.
No it isn’t, you were just replying to someone saying that it’s slightly more than their daily revenue (equivalent to a person’s income before taxes and spendings)…
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They will keep doing what they’re doing
Wrong.
This plea deal helps them quantify the cost of safety lapses, which they didn’t have before. Now they know that they’ll only get fined a tiny bit, they know that it’ll be worth it to cut further corners if that helps them sell maybe 5-10 more planes in total.
Just part of the cost of doing business.
If my maths is right that works out to just over 48 minutes of profit per person killed…
Well that’s fine. It’s not as if anyone died.
Oh wait…
“In a major win for the DOJ Boeing has agreed to a plea deal to avoid a criminal trial. As part of the deal Boeing agreed to a slap on the wrist after which they will be legally required to admit to being very naughty before they can resume committing crimes.”
If you were I were to commit criminal fraud, we would go to prison. Why is it that a corporation, which is also considered to be a person, does not need to do something as life-altering?
I suggest a federal agency become lone shareholder and criminal charges be filed against board members
It’s insane. Of course we can’t just jail a corporation and just shutting them down forcibly would cause more problems than it solves, but really that fine needs to be at least 50 times as high. Probably 100 times. Something that hurts, a lot. Not enough to outright bankrupt them, but enough to do that if it happens again any time soon. Their yearly revenue is 72 billion. This is the equivalent of someone making 50k a year paying a $200 fine for gross negligience that killed people. What the fuck?
Jail the executives and/or apply the fine to them. They are ultimately the ones that pushed this culture to happen, and as they say “the buck stops here”.
Wishful thinking, I know. It would never happen in real life.
It may never happen but don’t give up on the fact that it could happen. We make up what is the collective consciousness of all civilization. Just as we thought pot would never be legal there was enough people who said it should be. One day you might wake up and the work we did in shaming the owner class, the robber barons, will be a reality.
I don’t think a fine is an appropriate result. Any amount of money paid to the government is not going to get those people back, it’s not going to fix Boeing’s workplace culture, it’s just going to drive them to cut more corners to recoup the cost of the fine.
Clearly, they can’t be trusted to run their own QC operation in an industry where a few missed bolts leads to the violent deaths of hundreds of people. The “punishment” should be the creation of a QC and safety team that is accountable to the American people, which is paid for directly by Boeing. This team is financially liable for Boeing’s mistakes, and picks a fee based on how well boeing is passing QCs and inspections. Most importantly, Boeing’s C-suite is not allowed to privately communicate with this team.
Accountability should be the “punishment.”
I might be mistaken but I thought they are now under a lot of scrutiny from the FAA
Fine the shareholders personally, the major ones. I leave it to the lawyers to figure out how to go about that.
They did it once, then did it again and not only is it still just a fine, the fine didn’t even go up. Given inflation since then, the fine actually went down in real terms.
That’ll teach them for sure! /s
“You have to put over $400 million of your own money and launder it back around into the safety department of your own company”
That’ll teach em.
My god is the DOJ going to pay the bar tab for Boeing’s team too?
They killed hundreds of people by lying and then got caught lying some more. Over and over we’re told that if there was ever any actual criminality it would pierce the corporate veil. So either that was bullshit or the DOJ is incompetent or unwilling to go after these murderers the same way they do other organized crime.
It’s time to make the existence of Corporations a campaign issue. If they aren’t doing anything wrong then they don’t need the shield right?
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What a sick joke our DOJ is.
Now what. They going to fake jail like Orange Hitler.
And the mysterious deaths of the whistleblowers? Did they get to plead that away too?
