In the Bible, it says clearly that no one should make a dare to edit or correct the Bible by any words. But many chapters and contents are extremely censored from the original Bible. How is this acceptable, and how do we know the truth and full story about the entire life?

(Finally, some of the replies and trolls I received made me more confused. But thanks a lot for the reference replies.)

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    As religious people most often just pick and choose from scripture to make their point, it doesn’t matter to them that their version of scripture is edited/corrected/censored.

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      But can’t it negatively affect us all, expecially if we born in a religious family who take all these things seriously without sense. They used to believe everything said by pastors and priests without using common sense. Anyway they will repeat all the sins, then say my god will forgive me. But how much time ?

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      Isn’t the bible itself a precious text ? I believe the issue is humans manipulating all those that said in it for their personal or religious benefit.

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    Clarification: what original bible? The Bible today isn’t even a single version of a thing. Historically, it was a bunch of manuscripts (many of which, conversely, were more different to each other the further back in time you go showing that a number of competing stories got combined into one) written by different people at different times in different places and eventually people more or less agreed on some things. Certain things have been found to be added hundreds or even thousands of years ago and some modern bibles will actually remove them (apparently something in I think John where it seems to skip a verse or two where something was added to make it make more sense with the other synoptic gospels).

    TL;DR – there never was one single bible, it’s a bunch of stories that got edited before it got into a bible, and we continue to find texts that show older versions closer to any events differ from what modern texts have.

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    How can we believe and trust censored bibles?

    FTFY.

    And you can’t. The Bible is a bestselling work of fiction.

    For the record, I was raised catholic, though am not one anymore.

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      And far better written.

      I remember reading the Bible for the first time as a teenager, after years of hearing about how great it was from Christians, and both being severely disappointed by its immature writing style and losing a lot of respect for the literary standards of many Christians.

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      Well, it was made by a single person and is mostly consistent throughout. So it’s at least not self-contradictory, which is something.

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    You can never get the full story of anything. There is no amount of words that can every fully describe anything.

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    In the Bible, it says clearly that no one should make a dare to edit or correct the Bible by any words.

    Not trolling here, but where does it say that?

    It would have to be from a time when people were already conscious of this collection of writings being considered “The Bible”, so I’m assuming New Testament somewhere? And would any writings added after that not be considered to have flaunted that rule?

    I’m not religious at all, but I’m very interested in how the Bible came to be The Bible.

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      It’s at the very end of Revelation. It’s a warning not to add or remove any words from the prophecy in the book.

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        Oh ok, that makes sense, thanks. Will check that out. I kind of like the idea of someone writing Revelation and adding that so that they got the final chapter! :-)

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    There is no “original Bible.” Different sects of Christianity have different canons that they consider “scripture.”

    Most Protestants adhere to 66 books divided into the “old” & “new” testaments. Roman catholics include several more books commonly called the “apocrypha” or “deuterocanonical” books.

    Various traditions in the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox sects such as the Syriac Orthodox church or the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church include even more books and depending on the specific tradition, don’t even have a closed canon of official scripture. They don’t really think of scripture in terms of being officially canonized, it’s more of a spectrum from “more authoritative” to “less authoritative.”

    There was no defined canon for any of the early Christians for several centuries. Early Christians circulated many different epistles, religious poems, stories, legends, sermons, and parables, often just by oral tradition.

    Some, like the gospel of Mark, are considered fairly historical by many scholars, others are more fantastical or don’t have as solid historical attestation.

    There is active debate amongst scholars about authorship of the now canonized Biblical corpus and the level of historicity.

    Take the Bible for what it is; an impressive and important historical work, really a small library of ancient literature. It’s not a magical text though, it was written by people in very specific sociological and historical contexts and should be studied and examined with those in mind.

    If you find it enlightening and inspiring to your life and it helps you be a better person to others, that’s great. And if you attach special spiritual or religious meaning to it, that’s your call. But that doesn’t change the nature of what the Bible is and where it came from.

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      And on top of that, different translations can effectively make different stories as well. Just look at the story of Dinah. Most translations day that she was assaulted but some would suggest that she just had consensual sex. That’s a distinction that effectively makes it a different story depending on who did the translating.

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    There is no original Bible.

    The Bible is an assortment of works from a variety of authors arbitrarily selected by the Church, then made into a whole bunch of translations that aren’t super consistent with each other and aren’t all that faithful to the original works.

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    Ah you’re starting to see the cracks that finally gave me the distrust to leave the church. The church has thrown out entire books of the Bible because they didn’t agree with the messaging. How can I go to a church to where they literally threw out gospels just because they didn’t like it?

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        Welcome to the path my friend. I was extremely Christian, but I was shocked that the church would do that. I mean how dare man edit the word of God at all?! I’m not sure what I believe, but I know the church was corrupted

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    The King James Bible was cobbled together using late sources and I don’t think the Catholic church was throwing the ‘deeper esoteric sources’ to the general uneducated masses.

    So the bible is essentially a guide for how the masses should behave and doesn’t have much capacity to give people revelations and insight into God.

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      Because the life itself doesn’t have a meaning itself. I belive in god and without god its hard to live the life. Otherwise we can easily get into sins. There are more beyond some myths.

      And the unavoidable truth is death.

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        Sins like what though? Do you need the threat of eternal punishment to be a good person or keep from killing someone?