I literally uninstalled and disabled every AI process and app in that latest galaxy AI update, which was the whole update btw. my reasons are:
1- privacy and data sharing.
2- the battery, cpu, ram of AI bloatware running in the background 247.
3- it was chaging and doing things which I didn’t want especially in the galary photo albums and camera AI modes.
Did it help with battery life? My S24U has not been getting the greatest battery life lately and I wonder if this is why.
I don’t know about the AI stuff specifically. Check your battery usage to see which process is doing that. but yes debloating in general makes your phone battery longer, and with the help of few more tricks also faster. There are thousands of no-root-required debloating tutorials online.
I was considering a new Samsung phone - is that baked into it? (Assuming you’re talking Samsung anyway, based on the galaxy name)
To give you a second opinion from the other guy, I’ve had quite a few Samsungs in a row at this point. From Galaxy S2 to S23Ultra skipping years between every purchase.
They are effectively the premium vendor of Android, at least for western audiences. The midrange has some good ones, but other companies do well there too. At the high end, Samsung might lose out a bit to google on images of people, but the phones Samsung sell are well built, have a long support life, have lots of features that usually end up being imported to AOSP and/or Google’s own version of Android. The last few generations are the Apple of Android. The AI features they’ve added can be run on device if you want, and idk what the other guy is talking about, but the AI features aren’t that obnoxiously pushed on my device, the S23 Ultra. I have some things on, most things off. Then again, I’ve used HTC for a few years and iPhone for two weeks, so except for helping my dad with his Pixel 6a while that device lasted, I’ve not really tried other brands. The added customization on Samsung is kind of a problem for me, because I don’t feel like changing brands after being able to customize so much out of the box.
And I’ve never had issues connecting to a simple Windows computer, given that the phone has always been able to use the normal Plug-and-play driver that is there already. If you have a macbook like I do, it’s a bit cringe, but that’s a macbook issue moreso.
I’ll second this experience. Pricing aside (and even then, because of their new recycling policy, I was able to replace an old galaxy nearly the size of a tablet with a new flip-- that has VERY surprisingly become my favorite phone I’ve ever owned-- for like a hundred bucks), I’ve never had complaints about my Samsung phone and wearables that weren’t general to all smartphones. And the easy integrations between my watch, phone, and earbuds, all Samsung, is really great.
the Apple of Android
And here I thought I was being critical of them.
You are right of course, Samsung is very much like Apple. And if you don’t care about a company trying to lock you into their software, inserting themselves in between everything you’re trying to do, and denying you control over your own device, then I’m sure it works just fine.
You are framing the issue to read the way you want it to be read. The customization and software options I am currently using, I have been able to make 90% of it work with a rooted phone and a combination of many open source tools and more. Now I get 100 % without theming breaking randomly, bluetooth being stable, not having to reset the phone every time I update to a new version, and more random issues I had with banking apps and others. I have control over my device stop dooming lmaooo. People use devices that fit their needs.
The customization and software options I am currently using, I have been able to make 90% of it work with a rooted phone and a combination of many open source tools and more.
When I was using Windows I was able to get it to work 90% the way I wanted it to with a combination of open source tools, and help online disabling the bullshit. The point is I shouldn’t have to put that much effort fighting my OS to get it working the way I want it to.
With a Samsung phone maybe I can avoid their bullshit by rooting the phone and finding open source software, but I’d rather just go with a different company and not have the hassle.
stop dooming lmaooo.
“This company has shit business practices, you should use someone else” is not ‘dooming’.
People use devices that fit their needs.
Yes, and I’m pointing out why Samsung might not fit their needs in case they are unaware.
Samsung is a nightmare, don’t purchase their products.
For example: I used to have a Samsung phone. If I plugged it into the USB port on my computer Windows Explorer would not be able to see it to transfer files. My phone would tell me I need to download Samsung’s drivers to transfer files. I could only get them by downloading Samsung’s software. Once I installed the software Windows Explorer was able to see the device and transfer files. Once I uninstalled the software Windows Explorer couldn’t see the device again.
Anything Samsung can do in your region to insert themselves between you and what you are trying to do they will do.
2nd this. Samsung is for people who hate themselves but can’t commit to ending it all.
What’s a good brand then?
I use Pixel for Android. IMHO it’s the easiest to modify and if you want it stock, its vanilla Googled Android and it gets the updates 1st and most often.
This is a great summary I’m going to make use of
The software bloat is not dissimilar to what I’ve heard in the past, but I’d forgotten since I haven’t gone in depth researching yet. Which phones do we prefer today? Loosely off the top of my head, less bloat/intrusiveness, nice camera, battery life enough for a day, and maybe on the smaller size to fit one hand are probably what I’ll be looking in to.
I’ve got a Ulefone, I’m quite fond of it.
Ooo I haven’t heard of Ulefone before, I see some of their phones have a built in thermal camera? That sounds cool. How’s the Android/software experience? I’m not familiar with the Chinese phone lines, do they have their own bloat like Samsung?
No bloatware, although mine has a “feature” called Duraspeed I need to uninstall that restricts background applications, including fitness tracking ones I actually want running, and notifies me multiple times per day about this.
Them and Doogee I really like, especially since the phones don’t need to be in a case.
Apparently Pixel is the easiest to install an alternative OS on, going to start looking into that soon.
I’ve heard good things about Graphene OS, but also deviating from the “stock” experience might make it more difficult to do certain things… like biometrics for banking or something? Not sure myself. Will look into it too, good idea.
Care to share how you disabled every bit of AI in the phone?
Yee. No root required, neither recommended for samsung devices. In short just enable developer mode from phone settings, then debug it with adb platform to uninstall and disable any system app, and can also change lines, colors, phone behaviors, properties and look, install and uninstall apps which you could not before…and so many things.
Do you have to do this every time you update your phone?
No off course. Once and all the OS and security and all updates all work fine
We’re seeing a bunch of promises made when LLM were the novel hot shit. Now that we’ve plateaued on how useful they are to the average consumer every AI product is just a beta test that will drop support as soon as something newer and shinier comes along.
I’ve sold actual zero trust, actual AI, actual DevX, etc… I’m so tired of “yeah, everyone else just throws a label on, why the fuck do I need AI in my bank app? We have the REAL blah blah blah”
I’ve found ChatGPT somewhat useful, but not amazingly so. The thing about ChatGPT is, I understand what the tool is, and our interactions are well defined. When I get a bullshit answer, I have the context to realize it’s not working for me in this case and to go look elsewhere. When AI is built in to products in ways that you don’t clearly understand what parts are AI and how your interactions are fed to it; that’s absolutely and incurably horrible. You just have to reject the whole application; there is no other reasonable choice.
Lets see if this finally kills the AI hype. Big tech is pushing for AI because it is the ultimate spyware, nothing more.
Ai is not even truly ai right now, there’s no intelligence, it’s a statistical model made by training billions of stolen data to spit out the most similar thing to fit the prompt. It can get really creepy because it’s very convincing but on closer inspection it has jarring mistakes that trigger uncanny valley shit. Hallucinations is giving it too much credit, maybe when we get AGI in a decade that’ll fitting.
LLM based AI was a fun toy when it first broke. Everyone was curious and wanted to play with it, which made it seem super popular. Now that the novelty has worn off, most people are bored and unimpressed with it. The problem is that the tech bros invested so much money in it and they are unwilling to take the loss. They are trying to force it so that they can say they didn’t waste their money.
Many of us who are old enough saw it as an advanced version of ELIZA and used it with the same level of amusement until that amusement faded (pretty quick) because it got old.
If anything, they are less impressive because tricking people into thinking a computer is actually having a conversation with them has been around for a long time.
So you want to tell me they all spent billions and made huge data centres that suck more power than small country so we can all play with it, generate some cringy smut and then toss it away?
This is kinda insane if that’s how it will play out
Not the first time this has happened. Even recently. See NFTs. Venture capitalists hear “tech buzzword” and throw money at it because if they’re lucky, it’s the next Google. Or at least it gets an IPO and they can cash out.
Yeah but the scale is bigger and we could be doing something worthwhile with all these finite resources it makes me a bit dizzy
We could, but they don’t care about making the world a better place. They care about getting rich. And then if everything collapses, they can go to their private island or their doomsday vault or whatever and enjoy the apocalypse.
Are you like 80?
No, 47. Believe it or not, the first PCs came out when I was a young whippersnapper.
Oh OK cause the article you sent mentioned ELIZA being developed between 1964-67 so I had to ask.
Fuck yea man, Dr Sbaitso was the one for me. I loved that shit. It still fucks with people when I bust that out on Dosbox.
Doggdorzbaydzoh.
IBM 486 was my first PC as a kid. Throw in those floppys and game on DOS!
I have 6.22 and Win3.11 running in a VM for fun.
Mine was an Apple ][+.
(And yes, that’s how you write it properly. I’m a pedant.)
I would have it no other way. I am the same. 😂
When I was a kid my folks bought the TI 99/4A for some ridiculous reason. It’s interesting to look back at the weird hardware that never made it, like the cartridges that thing used instead of 5¼" floppies that were also out at the time. Maybe it reminded them of inserting 8 tracks.
The TI99 had an (optional) external expansion box that allowed it to use floppy disks.
I think the 99/4A also had a cassette tape drive you could buy. I don’t think they ever made a floppy drive for it though.
Honestly they’re still impressive and useful it’s just the hype train overload and trying to implement them in areas they either don’t fit or don’t work well enough yet.
Even in areas where they would fit it’s really annoying how some companies are trying to push it down our throats.
It’s always some obnoxious UI element, screaming at me their 3 example questions, and I always sigh and think, “I have to assume you can only answer these 3 particular questions, and why would I ask those questions, and when I ask UI questions I expect precise answers so would I want to use AI for that.”
I have no doubt that LLM’s have more uses than I can think of, but come on…
I’m happy for studies like this. People who are trying to smear their AI all over our faces need to calm, the f…k, down.
AI does a good job of generating character portraits for my TTRPG games. But, really, beyond that I haven’t found a good use for it.
One place where I found AI usefull is in generating search queries in JIRA. Not having to deal with their query language every time I have to change a search filter, but being able to just use the built in AI to query in natural language has already saved me like two or three minutes in total in the last two months.
So far that’s been the best use of AI for me too. I’ve also used it to help flesh out character backgrounds, and then I just go through and edit it.
Yeah exactly, as a tool that doesn’t need to be perfect to give you a starting point it’s excellent. But companies sort of forgot the “as a tool” part and are just implementing ai outright in places it’s not ready yet like drive-thru windows or voice only interface devices…it’s not ready for that shit currently (if it ever truly will be).
They are all completely half-baked products being rolled out before they’re ready because none of these billion dollar tech companies will allow a product to not immediately generate revenue.
I’m really enjoying seeing the backlash of everyone unanimously being sick of having this unfinished tech shoved down our throats.
…also TTRPH, TTRPI, TTRPJ, TTRPK, TTRPL, TTRPM, TTRPN, TTRPO, TTRPP, TTRPQ, TTRPR, TTRPS, TTRPT, TTRPU, TTRPV, TTRPW, TTRPX, TTRPY and TTRPZ games.
But beyond that, no good use, no siree.
PS: spoiler
that was WAY harder to type than I expected.
I agree with this, my sentiments exactly as well. Getting AI pushed towards us from every direction & really never asked for it. Like to use it for certain things but go to it when needed. Don’t want it in everything, at least personally.
No shit Sherlock
I’ve learned to hate companies that replaced their support staff with AI. I don’t mind if it supplements easy stuff, that should take like 15 seconds, but when I have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get to the one lone bastard stuck running the support desk on their own, I start to wonder why I give them any money at all.
I hate the feeling that they are continuing to dump real humans who can communicate and respond to issues outside of the rigid framework when it comes to support. AI is also only as good as its data and design. It feels like someone built a self driving car, stuck it on a freshly paved and painted highway and decided it was good to go. Then you take it on an old rural road and end up hitting a tree.
I don’t see any mention of any details about the study participants but I wouldn’t expect the general public to have this attitude.
Maybe I’d be more interested in AI if there was any I with the A. At the moment, there’s no more intelligence to these things than there is in a parrot with brain damage, or a human child. Language Models can mimic speech but are unable to formulate any original thoughts. Until they can, they aren’t AI and I won’t be the slightest bit interested beyond trying to break them into being slightly dirty (and therefore slightly funny).
Who cares about consumers inject more venture capital funds pls.
<—Not this cat. I become highly aroused when i hear salespeople gargling out their marketing bullshit
Yeah, baby, lie for me. Mmmm call a LLM “AI” again.
fuck that’s hot
AlphaProof isn’t an LLM but it just was a point from gold against some of the smartest people on earth. You think you’re smarter than the people building this stuff? That might be the dumbest shit about this. I swear the United States essentially really has become Ideocracy. From all angles. Capitalism sucks but AI isn’t the problem. Bunch of greedy apes is the fucking problem like it always has been. Lol
So you know if you have clean water and food though, you could be considered a very greedy ape. Why are you not fighting harder for clean water etc? What do you do to make the world better? (Shit probably same as me. Jack shit)
Hmmm i have to reread my previous comment cuz people are getting the wrong idea (maybe)
Im talking about marketing doublespeak, and the fact a press release to the public at large will never admit “AI” has become bad in the public perception because of marketing. It is because of these marketing mba dipshits and clueless fad followers putting “AI” on stuff that is
Not AI
Or
Not useful to the consumer, and indeed has many anti-consumer facets, being used primarily as an excuse to fire workers, push software as a service, or mine consumer info.
The point i tried and failed to make was these MBA fucks (categorically not the engineers building ai or the llms we also call ai) are so insulated inside their corpo boardroom-speak they can’t see or admit it’s their fault, or ever hear how goddamn stupid they sound.
Average CEO
Hey now, LLMs are AI!
… So is the code that makes those ghosts in s super mario approach you when you look away and cower when you look at them.
At least Shy Guys are cute.
d u h
