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His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday’s election.
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It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.
The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.
But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.
Please make your point explicit. Ronald Reagan and other right-wingers opposed the Soviet Union. Does that mean the Soviet Union should have remained intact and counter-revolutionaries in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Poland kept suppressed?
Ronald Reagan and other right-wingers opposed the Soviet Union. Does that mean the Soviet Union should have remained intact and counter-revolutionaries in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Poland kept suppressed?
Tankies like them would have loved that.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s in Caracas.
I can post pictures too
Let’s bring it full circle:
Now, you may notice that some of these people were elected, while one was not.
Ahh, the US-Russia summit in Geneva in June 2021.
U.S. President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose countries hold 90% of the world’s nuclear weapons, agreed at a June summit in Geneva to embark on an integrated bilateral ‘Strategic Stability Dialogue’ to lay the groundwork for future arms control and risk reduction measures.
Reuters - U.S. and Russia say they held ‘substantive’ arms control talks in Geneva
Simpler times.
Thank you for helping me make my point that posting a picture with politicians together is pretty meaningless. Anyone paying even the slightest attention to Venezuela knows Machado is a conservative. That doesn’t preclude the election from being rigged.
With such precedents, it is impossible to associate the image of María Corina Machado with that of a supposed positive change for Venezuela, an image she intends to present by claiming the status of an “outsider,” even though historically she has positioned herself as a political figure of the opposition establishment. The actors and influences that she promotes on Venezuelan soil come from outside the borders of the country and respond to political agendas in Florida and Washington DC. source.
Marco Rubio and Rick Scott agree with you.
Your source is bunk
And when it’s not safe for political dissidents to live in their home nation it’s not uncommon for them to be sheltered by a foreign government. Shit, the Kaiser is the one that sent Lenin back to Russia.
Dude, she has ties to Likud.
Yeah I don’t find that particularly palatable, but it’s still up to the people of Venezuela to decide who they want to lead them. This election result is a sham as far as it looks right now.
Yeah, poutine was not.
He was elected in 2000, María Machado is a pawn.
Blinken is possibly the worst Biden appointee
Can you elaborate? I mean I’m sure he’s a neoliberal jackass but they all are. Anything specific?
Mr Maduro accused the opposition of producing fake evidence to contest the result of the election and said the US was behind what he described as a farce and a coup attempt.
Wouldn’t be the first time
Overwhelming evidence
I wonder why he didn’t present any of it then. Looks pretty Donald Trump-like to me
Because the official evidence is held by the incumbent government. The evidence we do have access to, from extensive exit polls by neutral auditors to the mandated voting station slips (small pieces of paper that each voter is issued giving them the electronic count so far at that station) both track a 60 - 70% lead for the opposition.
In response, instead of releasing the official report, the incumbent government has brutally crushed several protests (even killing protestors), arrested the opposition, and claimed victory. Not exactly the pattern of behavior of an innocent victor.
by neutral auditors
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So release the official counts and let people compare their voting slips? Don’t arrest your opposition?
If it quacks like a dictatorship and stinks like a dictatorship…
They tried and the site got hacked.
LOL, what a convenient excuse.
Lol sure. No other website can hold the data either, it’s gone now, like in an internet tube, vanished I say.
What an idiot lie.
Of course, there is only one available domain to do this, and that was hacked. There is no possible other way to get that data out but that one website. And it is, forever, hacked.
Just to clarify, the evidence provided by opposition is not from exit polls. The evidence is genuine voting receipts from the machines that are supposed to be* guaranteed to each party’s site observers
*Opposition says many of their observers were removed without being allowed access to their polling site receipts to explain why they didn’t have them all
The electronic machines provide every voter a paper receipt that shows which candidate they chose. Voters are supposed to deposit their receipts at ballot boxes before exiting the polls.
After polls close, each machine prints a tally sheet showing the candidates’ names and the votes each received. Party representatives stationed at polling sites throughout election day get a copy of the tally sheet, and electoral authorities keep another one.
Evidence was literally uploaded by the opposition, and has been analyzed by multiple news organizations already who agree with their conclusions. Not to mention the exit polls and other available public evidence.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/masked-assailants-ransack-venezuela-opposition-134849213.html?guccounter=1
Here’s another organization that independently gathered many of the polling receipts with similar results:
The opposition leader is in hiding (who was barred by Maduro’s government for running, among many other tactics with government powers Maduro used to try to tilt the vote in his favor). Maduro has rounded up over 1000 members of the opposition already to try and prevent this data from being gathered and take more political prisoners. The Carter Center, who Maduro government themselves invited as a monitor, said that:
“Venezuela’s electoral process did not meet international standards of electoral integrity at any of its stages and violated numerous provisions of its own national laws.”
The only one fighting transparency and trying to hide results here is Maduro. These tallies were all stored on qr codes. Maduro could have released them at anytime and chose not to. Could have instantly been released the night of the election, as they were coming in if he wanted. Can’t believe people on here are still falling for this dictator’s bald faced lies.
From what I heard, the government released them on a website but it got hacked and shut down. Now he released them to the Supreme Court and invited the opposition to look at them, but they didn’t show up.
I don’t agree with them arresting opposing candidates and stuff like that, but I also don’t trust the US’s opinions on this matter. They’ve tried to coup Venezuela basically every year and every election lol. The opposition releasing their interpretation of data is like Trumps saying they should’ve won from their polling data in all the red states. Idk, it’s very easy to manipulate, especially with US help.
Their Supreme Court is very biased towards PSUV. Letting them weigh in is like letting a fox count how many eggs are in your henhouse.
The government did not release them, and you’ve provided no source for your claim. Also, showing up to a courthouse as they’re all rounded up and being thrown in a jail? Give me a break. Many countries are calling for the release of the results, including leftist governments like Colombia and Brazil.
Source for what? The hack? That claim has been in Western media, too.
I don’t think he’ll arrest Gonzalez because he knows it would backfire hard on him, but he does need to stop all the rhetoric about jailing his opposition. It’s certainly not helping.
There’s nothing in the source you linked about Maduro releasing results online and some “hack” not allowing it. Maduro has not released any results.
The source you linked does report all the things I’ve said in my comment again though.
And it’s not just rhetoric, he is jailing his opposition.
Sorry, I guess I was mistaken. Looks like the story is he tried to release them but got hacked. Thanks for catching that.
Right, but because they’re protesting and rioting. Even the US has done that for less. And within the last couple months.
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If you have any questions or comments about me, you can make a post to LW Support lemmy community.2 things are true here:
- The US and Blinken are notoriously villainous bad faith actors
- Maduro is a fascist dictator
The best information I have seen says Maduro lost. I don’t know anything about the opposition party, maybe they would be worse for Venezuela, maybe not. It doesn’t seem like either party is acting in the best interest of the people, they’re stuck with having to choose which axis profits from their natural resources.
They can’t be worse. A dog could run that country better than Maduro.
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Maduro and buddies are already saying the post election protests were a CIA coup attempt. They knew this was coming and they tried to get out ahead of it.
How very cuntservative of him.
And plenty of useful idiots here are parroting him, because “US Bad”
And plenty of useful idiots here are parroting Blinken, because “US Good.”
“B-b-b-but whatabout” coming from one of the most ardent defenders of the fascist shithead Maduro here? How utterly predictable.
The US defines sanctions as acts of war, like economic warfare. So the US is at war with Venezuela. How can that fact not play a role in the evaluation of the claims? It’s like giving claims by Russia equal weight as claims from Ukraine about their own election.
And of course, how could you even expect free and fair elections while under siege?
And of course, how could you even expect free and fair elections while under siege?
Well, at least we agree they weren’t free nor fair. The difference is you believe US forced Maduro to falsify them because “US?” while some think he did because “Maduro”.
Well I believe the government had to clamp down on opposition because they actually are in league with the imperialist side of the US and want a coup and overthrow democracy in Venezuela. I don’t think they falsified the results, until I see actual evidence, and not just claims of having evidence by the lying US.
It’s similar to Iran: The guardian council was established to prevent coup attempts by e.g. the CIA. Election interference creates a legacy of problems. Many countries in the world can’t have a free democracy because the US can bring such a huge influence to bear. The USA deserve to be hated by many people of the earth. The US experienced that kind of interference the first time in 2016.
But my point is that if your country is under siege by a hostile foreign power you have to hold fast and prevent the take over at any cost. This is where crackdowns and oppression become less black and white and the use of force and violence is an imperative.
The Venezuelan government has been remarkably calm and measured though. They didn’t even arrest Juan Guaidó who clearly is a US puppet.
Media often reinforces binary thinking by presenting complex issues as battles between opposing sides, where there’s a hero and a villain, good guys and bad guys, with no room for middle ground.
This polarized storytelling simplifies narratives but doesn’t capture the complexities of real-life issues, which are often multifaceted and nuanced.
The US is bad. Especially when it comes to South America. And especially with socialist countries. The US always sanctions socialism to then claim it doesn’t work. Otherwise americans might start to doubt their ultra capitalism.
I thought Venezuela hasn’t had a legitimately elected government in a very long time. Was something different this time?
Chavez won, at least, his first election fairly and in a landslide. So, it’s been up to 25 years since the last free and fair election there.
I’m sure this had nothing to do with it.
I already believe the Venezuelan elections were rigged. Stop trying to convince me otherwise Blinken.
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The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.
The three countries most well known for their open and fair democratic processes.
/s
Insert “Why is it always you three” meme here.
Sussy af
I think the venezuelan government is wrong this time, and the election was rigged, bUT: it coming from the US doesn’t mean shit.
It is sad that on any topic concerning South America, I am suspicious of anything that the US says.
What about Brazil, Mexico, and Colombia?
A distinctive objective take. Have a meaningless upvote.
