• teft@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Wait, so Obama is black because his father is black and now Harris isn’t black even though her father is black? Do these idiots even hear themselves?

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      That seems to be the general thrust, but I have seen a few not-so-bright sparks suggest that Jamaicans aren’t really black.

      I even saw one person suggest that the fact that she is descended from an Irish plantation owner means she can’t be black. Which, gee, I wonder why a black person would be descended from a plantation owner?

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        Are you sure it was an Irish plantation owner? Most of the time Irish people in the Caribbean were working on plantations, not owning them. From what I’ve read, the person in question was a British person from Antrim - which is on the island of Ireland, but is part of the UK and was itself “plantationed” by Britain.

        It would be weird for example to refer to George Orwell as Indian, Louis Theroux as Singaporean or Duke Wellington as Irish - after all, “being born in a stable does not make one a horse” as the Duke put it when ‘accused’ of being Irish.

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      No you see he wasn’t black, he was just born in Kenya, and many people are born in Kenya, you don’t have to be black to be born in Kenya, i have many friends born in Kenya, Ok I’m done /s.

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      I think we need to talk about how Obama is white. It both uses their own stupid so-called logic against them and would seriously piss them off.

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      It feels like their rules are if your part minority, you’re a minority (which is how society treats people). However, you can only be a maximum of one minority in each category. Harris can be a women, but she can’t be both Indian and Black.

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        I think it’s more like they can’t comprehend being half black if the other half is not white. Which really gives you some insight into what they think about everybody that isn’t white. The Republican worldview on race is the same as their worldview on everything else: literally black and white.

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        Their rules are you are whatever is beneficial to the propaganda web we’re currently spinning. Next week she’ll be black again.

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          Yup. It’s not worth any time trying to figure out their “rules”, because there are none, and they don’t need any. These deranged morons are unburdened by logic (or principles, morals, honesty, consistency). And there are entire industries now grinding out profit from the idiocy and hate. It’s just business.

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      Schrodinger’s black person. A person is both black and not black at any given time untill a bigot decides what they are.

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    It’s a real lack of understanding if they assume that people are only voting for her because she is black. It’s going to be a really really weak strategy

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        I still remember when he won in 2008, feeling happy that he was able to win, not because he was black but despite it. He didn’t campaign on it at all. In hindsight, he campaigned on a vague notion of change, which I’m sure many thought it meant more than it really did.

        And then Hilary actually did campaign about voting her in because she’s a woman and it’s her turn. While Trump took on the vague “drain the swamp” message that many likely believed he meant something different by (when in hindsight, it was either an outright lie or he specifically meant the “swamp” of barriers between him and making money from whatever half-baked scam he was currently chasing).

        That said, let them think that. They’ll just waste their time making themselves look worse for focusing so much attention on something that isn’t really relevant to anything. I’m not even sure who the intended target audience of that accusation is. He might just end up making her more palatable for racists who are getting tired of him.

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            This is their best shot. Trump ran as a reform candidate, but he never delivered. At best (?) he built a fence that didn’t do anything. So he’s desperate to avoid policy discussions.

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      Rightists are fucked in the head. They’re probably imagining how they would react if they found out one of theirs wasn’t white.

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      If you took that image entirely out of context, as if you don’t know that they’re running a race, it’s pretty amusing.

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      that Jamaican’s silver was brutal ngl got a little bit sad watching his confused reaction.

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    So…people are only black if their family came directly to America from Africa? Being enslaved in other countries first means they aren’t black?

    And if you’re mixed-race, and you don’t count as being any of those races?

    And no mixed race person should become president because you’re taking away the chance for a single race person to be the first of that race to be president? And I think they forgot there was already a black president. Or are they saying the first woman president should be white so they don’t take away the ability for a white person to be the first woman president since black people already got a first?

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      I just facepalm every time someone says, “but her dad is from Jamaica!” Like slavery didn’t exist there.

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      Was Obama the first black president? He’s half white, I don’t remember which race he picked on mixed race choosing day.

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    I cannot think of a more desperate attempt at being apart of a fascist crew lmoa fuck this turd

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    Can the Republicans dig themselves any deeper… There was some clown on Facebook that went over ancestry… Like how long until you hit fascism?

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      Anything except that Dominion altered the votes. There’s one way to make them tell the truth. Well, at least make them stop telling one specific lie.

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      It’s a dog whistle to the racists who think the only thing worse than not being white is being mixed race. But they can’t just say that out loud, so they play dumb and go “how can she be both?”

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    The four main MAGA attacks on Kamala Harris:

    1. She laughs.
    2. She hugs people.
    3. She’s pretending to be black.
    4. She’s black.
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      seen lots of comments insinuating that she slept her way to the top, calling her Kamala “on her back/knees” Harris. I just reply with *citation needed and they always either don’t respond or say “dO YouR ReSeArCh!”

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          Nothing says sleeping to the top like prominent posts that I just heard about today such as the California State Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and the California Medical Assistance Commission.

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            Oh I didn’t make a judgement on it, just elaborating on where the belief stems from.

            Although I believe the issue(?) is that those are paid positions. Of course, she might’ve genuinely been the best person for those roles.

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              Oh, I wasn’t criticizing you, I was criticizing the people that are suggesting she slept her way to the top. I wouldn’t be overly concerned about the pay issue, both positions are in the $50k range, so not exactly the stuff of corruption.

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      I’ve seen people make blackface accusations over tanning spray and charcoal blackhead masks.

      Just today I got accused of transphobia again (on a different site) because somebody didn’t like my own lived experiences with the intersection between my transness and my exploration of non-judeo-christian spirituality.

      Like, I’ve had surgery to remove gendered parts. Twice. And I get called transphobic all. the. time. I literally just can’t with that entire community they’re so fucking detached from the rest of society in their little insular bubble where they take every single little thing waaay too seriously such that half the shit they say makes 0 sense. They’re so hung up on people they barely know following every single linguistic rule they made up in their little bubble and conceptualizing their gender in all its aspects exactly the same way they do that they’re impossible to deal with.

      My nibling who just came out themselves had a nasty breakup because the other person insisted that the way they were cuddling them was misgendering them. Just completely unhinged.

      I just want people to not give a a shit about my gender and I’m happy. You mind your business I’ll mind mine. But god forbid I say that I can’t personally empathize with the concept of gender at all. Apparently being surgically confirmed nonbinary isn’t enough to have my own experiences and feelings about my gender or lack thereof.

      Being trans isn’t in itself a mental illness but I’ve definitely noticed a trend of trauma from the wider societal nonacceptance leading to a much higher incidence of mental illnesses in that community. That plus the missing elders that died during the AIDs crisis has left a huge number of LGBT kids just absolutely fucking feral ffs.

      Sorry this got off topic but yeah anyway I’m turning into an old person at an alarming rate. I wish I had a trans community of people to spend time with who weren’t fucking insane, but we can’t always get what we want (which is a lesson a LOT of those people need to learn).