Google’s story over the last two decades has been a tale as old as time: enshittification for growth. The once-beloved startup—with its unofficial “Don’t Be Evil” motto—has instead become a major Internet monopolist, as a federal judge ruled on Monday, dominating the market for online search. Google is also well-known for its data-harvesting practices, for constantly killing off products, and for facilitating the rise of brain-cell-destroying YouTubers who make me Fear for Today’s Youth. (Maybe that last one is just me?)
Google’s rapid rise from “scrappy search engine with doodles” to “dystopic mega-corporation” has been remarkable in many ways, especially when you consider just how much goodwill the company squandered so quickly. Along the way, though, Google has achieved one unexpected result: In a divided America, it offers just about everyone something to hate.
Here are just a few of the players hating Google today.
You either die a hero or less be long enough to become the villain.
Less be da villan
I’m all about that duck duck go yo
Google’s motto in 2003: “Don’t be evil.”
They sure let that motto slide.
Well yeah, they superceded it in 2015 and eradicated it in 2018. They were doing evil before then too, of course, but I guess at that point they felt like they could just drop the mask.
Hate Google ain’t enough, plebs need to deny Google profit.
That’s how you hurt a parasite.
Why only deny Google? Attack them all with a blow to the stock market. The further it ticks down the more they bleed.
yes, there are many ways to do this. once you ID corpo as a bad faith actor, deny them engagement/profit.
this is the the crux of the strat. however it only works for discretionary spending category. rent, food etc is hard to avoid but there are still some choices.
vote with that wallet folks, it is the ol’ reliable of them all
I’m currently de-Googling my life. Moving all my services over to Proton, testing other search engines, etc. Trying to slowly cut out/replace all services that Google provides me.
Oh, and I’m sticking with Firefox with Ublock Origin, to ensure Google can’t ever advertise to me, even incidentally.
I finally gave up on Edge with the coming ad-blocker changes. Moving back to Firefox after a decade+ was super easy, hardly a blip in my day.
I’m not fully de-Googling, however I have been migrating things that Google does badly over to other services. Kagi for search was the latest, and admittedly hardest mentally for me to do. Not because the search engine itself isn’t fantastic (it is), but I’ve been using Google since its inception when I stopped asking Jeeves or Hotbot. Just feels weird to jump ship, but I’m so tired of how bad and enshitified their search has become that I just can’t do it anymore.
I actually have a Proton acct already but only use the VPN. Sounds like it’s time to look further into the other offerings.
AskJeeves and Hotbot! Man, that takes me back. I also enjoyed Excite and Infoseek back in the pre-Google days.
Proton’s top tier service for individuals (Proton Unlimited) is only $7.99/month if you pay for 2 years of service. Gives you full access to all their services.
Proton just announced last month that they’re turning the company into a nonprofit organization, because security is more important to them than making money. That’s why their services are dirt-cheap; they want to ensure it’s affordable for everyone, and the only reason they collect money at all is to keep the servers online.
ProtonMail is not bad at all!
GOOD WORK SOLDIER
I haven’t used any Google produces or services for the better part of a decade now and my life has been fine. I haven’t used Facebook or any non-forum-type social media either and my life has been BETTER!
I stopped using protonmail as moving thr data out and exporting / archiving old emails is nightmare. I use simple mailbox.org and it’s fine. I use on desktop pop3 and imap on mobile. I remove my emails automatically from servers older than 30 days
You got that right bro. Greed breeds abuse of the customer. Mega-companies, become the worst problem the world has because of that same greed. To put it bluntly “Greed is not good” to mis-quote a 'Wall Street" movie character player by Charlie Sheen.
<cough> Michael <cough> Douglas <cough>
We demand infinite growth. Why? Because shareholders want to buy shares and sell them later for more.
Do anything it takes to make that transaction happen, cut people’s jobs en masse, whatever.
Forever.
WE don’t demand it.
By context “we” refers to google.
Derp, of course. Re-reading it now, so obvious.
Stock holders demand infinite growth. If the management doesn’t make money, they put in place new management. A company is only worth the value of the next stock buyback or dividend. It’s baked into the structure of corporations, especially publicly-owned corporations.
*Capitalism demands infinite growth. Because the goal of Capitalism first and foremost isn’t providing a good product or upholding moral values, but making money.
Stock holders can sue the company if there’s a loss, too. That shouldn’t be a thing, but here we are.
Whoever passed that bullshit is responsible for so much of what’s wrong with our economy.
Infinite growth in a closed and limited system.
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.
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/s for the oblivious
On August 5, 2024, Trump asked his supporters to stop using Google.
Did not know that. Well. Stopped clock, blind squirrel, etc.
Whats a good google maps alternative?
Ive had some success with OSM+ but only if I supply the end point myself. Otherwise it had a really hard time getting a place like Home Depot or a local university, etc…etc…
Try the Organic Maps app
Try Magic Earth. It’s a good alternative.
I use Organic Maps. But it does not YET have traffic data. So if it’s an area with traffic jams, I use Google maps. But most of the time organic maps is great
In terms of map data, as far as I know there’s pretty much only OSM, Google Maps and Apple Maps (which is getting a beta browser version)*.
OSM map data is usually excellent, search can be very hit or miss though. You might want to try some of the apps that use OSM data like Organic Maps to see if you get better search results using that. Personally I use both Apple Maps and Organic Maps.
* I also know of Mapquest but it’s lacking a lot of POIs and even ways from what I can see, at least in the two cities I’ve checked.
Maybe if you’re in a big city, or maybe Europe. I recently moved back to the US from Asia and found OSM data to be really bad in the small city that I come from.
That’s fair, when I was in the middle of nowhere in Finland a couple of years ago, the map was often very barebones, that’s also probably where I did the most edits to date. That’s kinda the downside of a community project where people usually map the area they live in or visit, when fewer people live somewhere there’s fewer people to improve the map. And yeah, I feel like OSM is more popular in Europe in general.
Be the change you want to see :)
everyone with common sense and the ability to pay attention has hated google for over a decade.
Sure thing, cool guy.
I’m not cool.
Cool guys sit there and get pissy about criticism of their dearest waifu company. Like you, Mr.Cool.
wtf?
dOn’T bE eViL
A lot of people still don’t know.
Some people don’t even know what Reddit is.
Now, Reddit is charging Google for priority access to its posts (article - only Google and Brave will show those results in the near future).
Perhaps Google will start charging money to use it also.
Now, Reddit is charging Google for priority access to its posts
If the idiots at Google hadn’t shut down DejaNews they would have already owned a discussion forum more popular than reddit.
Always innovating, never maintaining - what could possibly ever go wrong with that model? 🙄
I’ve started to try and move away from Google as much as possible, which I knew would be difficult, but it’s proving to be harder than I thought.
I can’t do anything about my work stuff, because our company uses Google for email and cloud storage. I set up an account on Proton Mail for my personal email and file storage. I currently have an android phone, but I don’t like iPhones so I don’t really know what I want to do there. I switched back to Firefox after 15 years of using Chrome. I actually started using Bing search more. I’m looking into alternatives for the Chromecast that Google doesn’t seem interested in supporting anyway, which might just end up being a small PC hooked up to the TV.
I’m just so tired of Google services either being shut down or slowly getting worse and worse until they’re nearly unusable.
On the android front, if you don’t mind using a pixel phone then Graphene OS would be worth checking out. It’s a foss non rooted alternative to base android with a focus on privacy and security. The no root requirement means a good amount of apps like banking work properly on it. It vastly expands the app permission system and removes the special privileges to Google system apps, allowing you to remove it or limit them. It also supports sandboxing of the play store and multiple profiles so you can effectively quarantine Google requiring apps.
+1 for GrapheneOS on a Pixel. I use GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 Pro. It’s just awesome. I will never go back. Camera is awesome too.
@StormWalker @wispy_jsp
I have been using GrapheneOs for many years, now I am using Google Pixel 8, I had to install Google Camera App to make the best use of the cameraYeah I’m with you there, the pixel camera app is a must for me too. What I love about GrapheneOS is how easy it is to block permissions. So with google pixel camera app, no network and no location permissions means that it cannot report back to google unless I allow it to. It’s a safe way to use the odd google app in a limited way when you need to. The other google app I use is the g-keyboard, because it is so much better in some ways. But again it is very restricted and I turned off the features I don’t want, like voice typing.
It’s not as hard as you’d think. https://github.com/tycrek/degoogle - This has everything you need. Definitely use Firefox. Check out Nextcloud for personal cloud/documents replacement etc. Definitely try a small PC hooked to your TV and look in to plex. Don’t use Google/Bing, stick with DuckDuckGo and if you need to, use !g or !b in your searched on ddg to get bing and google results. It’s fun exploring all the alternatives in the list.
“Brave search” seems to work good for me with Firefox. Protonmail is awesome yeah 👍🏻 There are alternatives to everything, just finding the good ones!
https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/
Thought this looked cool. Haven’t had the need to use it much since discovering this. Offers a lot of googles functionality that I used to use like collaborative documents, spreadsheets, calendars, and more.
Despite the convenience of some of its tools, the hardcore tech set increasingly prefers tech companies like Signal or even Apple, which is currently running expensive TV ads about how other browsers (read: Google’s Chrome) spy on you.
One important thing to be mentioned is that, while Apple is correct when highlighting that Chrome is a privacy nightmare, Apple and Google are cut from the same cloth and they’re both user-hostile when it comes to privacy, monopoly enforcement, censorship, etc. Both deserve the hate that they get. (Alongside Amazon, Facebook and Microsoft.)
Nationalize google and turn it into a coop that is democratically controlled by worker and users. Lets us vote on their management and corporate priorities and policies.
To hell with the shareholders! They ruin everything!
I wish there were more coops. Shareholders are almost the entire reason for the mess we find ourselves in.
At least their crawlers should be nationalised/coop/something.
