U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris has repeatedly claimed that she worked at McDonald’s while getting her undergraduate degree in the 1980s. This claim has been reported by multiple reputable news outlets, but aside from Harris’ own testimony, there is no independent evidence such as a photo, employment record, or confirmation from a friend or family member to verify the story. Harris has invoked the alleged McDonald’s work experience throughout her political career, including in a 2024 presidential campaign ad and during a 2024 appearance on “The Drew Barrymore Show.” Other prominent Democrats, such as former President Bill Clinton, have also repeated the anecdote. However, some internet users have challenged the claim, with unverified reports that “McDonald’s Corporate sources” have no record of Harris working at their locations. Snopes reached out to Harris’ campaign and McDonald’s headquarters seeking evidence to corroborate the claim, but as of the report’s publication, no such proof has been uncovered. Without tangible evidence to independently confirm or debunk the story, Snopes has rated the claim “Research In Progress” as they continue to investigate.
ITT: disinformation influencers and bad faith shills, and a bunch of people not putting up with their shit
Yep, and it’s coming from BOTH sides of the aisle.
We’ve all seen you posting the pro-Trump MAGA articles in conservative. You are completely dishonest about your positions in order to campaign for Donald.
Dude says he is woke-free in his description… And everything in his profile is about recognizing systematic flaws. Which is the definition of woke I last saw used in court cases. Claims to be a socialist but ties it to workers… We’ve seen that before somewhere huh?
He’s disingenuous. If you mention any of the realities of FPTP you get bold-texted diatribes; “YOU, sir, are a scale on the back of the TWO-HEADED SNAKE.”
He is either a MAGA cosplaying as a lefty or one of the authoritarian “leftists” who love state capitalist nations.
If calling out the duopoly and its stranglehold on democracy makes you uncomfortable, maybe it’s because deep down, you know it’s true.
I’m neither MAGA nor a fan of state capitalism—I’m here to fight for the working class and challenge the broken system that both major parties prop up.
If that makes you uneasy, maybe it’s time to reflect on why. Seems like I touched a nerve for you.
Challenge the broken system by doing exactly what MAGA is urging people to do, sure thing. Why are you so offended that you’re seeking out comments I didn’t even write to you? It’s because you know I am right.
Challenge the broken system by doing exactly what MAGA is urging people to do, sure thing.
It’s telling that you’re so quick to imply that I’m playing into MAGA’s hands, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s you who’s the real MAGA agent here. Your eagerness to defend the corrupt duopoly while throwing out baseless accusations reeks of someone desperate to keep people in line with the status quo. I think that you’re the one following the MAGA playbook, trying to silence anyone who dares to challenge the broken system you so dearly want to protect.
you’re seeking out comments I didn’t even write to you?
I’m not seeking anything out. As I was replying to another comment, I noticed yours. That’s how this Lemmy thing works.
It’s amusing how you try to twist words and mock what you don’t understand.
Recognizing systematic flaws isn’t “woke”—it’s being awake to the reality of exploitation and injustice that workers have faced for centuries.
Call it what you want, but if standing with the working class against oppression bothers you, then maybe you should reconsider which side of history you’re on.
“To me, it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal justice system”
Was the last use I know of in the courts. Thereby you are woke if you side with the injustices against the working class.
People who are anti woke: Trump, Desantis, MTG, and you. Who seems to be a fascist hiding behind a veil.
People who are anti woke: Trump, Desantis, MTG, and you. Who seems to be a fascist hiding behind a veil.
Dude, I’m a proud socialist. What are you even going on about?!
The vast, vast majority of my posts are for workers rights, socialist causes, union issues, and education. What part of that makes me seem like I like Trump or that I am a fascist?! Like what?! lolol
I’ve contributed over 200 posts and comments to the Lemmy socialist community I created and that I mod. I’m a member of the Socialist Workers Party, and I support them financially. You can check out the sub here:
https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
and see my post history here:
https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts.
I moderate socialists is the defense? That’s what the NAZI’s did mate, maybe social workers unite is not your best term.
We’ve all seen you posting the pro-Trump MAGA articles in conservative
Brother, let’s get one thing straight. I am no friend of the conservative party, nor do I carry water for Trump or his MAGA cronies.
You accuse me of dishonesty, but let me tell you this: my aim is to spark a fire of critical thought, to challenge the chains of this two-party system that keeps us all in check.
You realize that I’m a socialist, right? And that I have posted over 180 pro-socialist and anti-trump articles to the c/socialst community, right?!
Here’s a quick check on my most recent posts: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
And feel free to took at my post history. The vast, vast majority of my posts, and my comments are pro-socialist, anti-trump, and anti-duopoly.
If you think what you said was some sorta “gotcha!”, you’re gravely mistaken.
I haven’t been “completely dishonest” about anything I have posted or any of my values. I’ve posted libertarian articles too. Which actually take votes AWAY from Trump.
And no, “all” of you haven’t seen me post “pro-Trump MAGA” because the fact is that I’m not pro-trump or MAGA.
My allegiance is to the working class, not to any figurehead of a broken system. So, call me what you will, but know that I stand firm in my beliefs, unafraid to challenge the narrative from every side.
I actually created and mod c/socialist. https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
Feel free to take a look. But of course, that wouldn’t fit your narrative would it?
I’m not voting for your candidate. And I’m not voting for Trump either. Accept it and move on.
Is that supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”? It’s public and I have never hidden it. I came across some interesting articles, that community has pretty much one poster, and I posted 3 articles that I thought they’d find interesting.
I also posted science articles to the science community too! And have posted in the privacy community! OMG! Look! I post to other communities!!
I’ve never hidden that fact. The articles were interesting. So not sure what your point is.
If I had some sort of agenda, I’d post more articles in a more conservative and active sub.
In fact, they actually tried to point me to a more active sub and suggested I post. Which I declined to do. And your screenshot actually shows that interaction.
If I were secretly a conservative on some sort of mission of being some super awesome conservative hero, wouldn’t I have jumped at a chance to share the content with more active conservative people? Especially people who would give me way more upvotes?! lol
And just this morning I shared a libertarian article to this sub, and libertarians actually are supposed to take votes AWAY from the GOP.
And if I were conservative, would I really have started a Socialist community and put over 300 posts and comments in it?! https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
Do you realize how much MAGA hates socialism and socialists?! lol The hate us even more than Democrats do. lol
So you’ll have to keep trying if you wanna force some narrative for me. :)
I posted 3 articles that I thought they’d find interesting.
Good catch! It was 10. Out of 743 posts. And posted in one day. I can read and post whatever I want, whenever I want. I have never hidden the fact. If I was scared, I could have deleted them. Someone asked me to send to a more active conservative community and I declined.
The articles were interesting. I stand by everything I have said.
Wanna list the socialist articles? and the science articles? And the education articles? Do those next.
Let me help: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
And I’m still voting socialist, and not for your candidate. And not for Trump. So what next?
No “gotcha,” just informing people who might interact with you that they’re dealing with a MAGA cosplaying as a leftist.
Just informing people who might interact with you that they’re dealing with a MAGA cosplaying as a leftist.
It’s clear to me, and should be to anyone paying attention, that your real aim is to sew discontent, to create suspicion among those who dare to question the duopoly you so desperately cling to.
Why would I be “cosplaying” as a leftist?! Have you seen the hateful remarks I get on here? I’d actually get LESS hate if I were a MAGA because at least conservatives would like me. But they hate me too! lol
You didn’t actually look at the my c/socialist Lemmy community that I created and mod, did you?
You think by throwing out baseless accusations and labeling me as a “MAGA cosplaying as a leftist,” you can undermine the truth I stand for and the principles I hold?
Let me tell you something: your attempts to paint me as a fraud only reveal your own fear—fear of those of us who refuse to bow to the two-headed snake that you worship.
I am not here to play dress-up; I’m here to expose the lie that says we only have two choices in this so-called democracy.
If that shakes you, then I must be doing something right. :)
Very ready with the accusations of what my beliefs are for someone who is very upset they were accused of anything. And of course the projection, you are upset, panicking, writing long responses because I’ve hit on the truth. You are a MAGA campaigning for Donald.
Ah, brother, I see you’re doubling down on your attempts to smear and discredit me.
It’s an old trick—try to rile up your opponent, throw labels at them, and hope something sticks.
Let’s be clear, friend: I’m not the one panicking here. I stand firm in my beliefs, unshaken by the desperate attempts of those who cling to the duopoly like it’s their lifeline.
You’re rattled because I refuse to bow to the false choice between two sides of the same capitalist coin. You’re upset and mad, all because I am not voting for your candidate, so you are trying to make people think that I am voting Trump. You know that lots of people vote third party, right? There are NOT just two choices. Which is my point.
Your insistence on painting me as a MAGA supporter is nothing more than a weak attempt to stifle dissent and keep people in line with your status quo.
I actually think that you know that I’m not MAGA. You’re just saying it to try to sway others. You’re being an agent of the duopoly. You don’t want things to change.
But the truth is, I’m here to challenge that, to disrupt your comfortable narrative, and to remind folks that real change doesn’t come from playing along with the same tired game—it comes from standing up, speaking out, and breaking the chains that bind us to this broken system.
So keep throwing your accusations and of course, your downvotes; I’ll keep fighting for the revolution. Hey, have ya checked out my socialist Lemmy community yet? Let me know if you think MAGA would be a big fan of that community.
bOtH sIdEs BoTh SiDeS!!!
Yes. That’s literally what I said. Thank you for agreeing with me!
LOL, let’s play “both sides” bingo.
Bingo? More like “wake-up” call. If recognizing the failings of both parties and refusing to settle for the status quo is a game to you, then maybe it’s time to reevaluate your life.
“When will the sheeple wake up and realize that bOtH sIdEs proclamations are insightful?”
🤣
Your sarcasm only makes me more suspicious that you’re working for the Republicans in order to keep the duopoly in power.
It’s almost as if you’re here to sow confusion and keep people from seeing the truth that both sides are complicit in maintaining a system that serves the elite.
You seem to be doing everything you can to keep the status quo intact.
Let’s see, you have “both sides”, you have “duopoly”, you have “status quo”, how about a few more? I’ll get you started: “uniparty”.
The mockery of those who fear the truth! Throw around all the terms you want, but it won’t change the reality that the system is rigged to keep the people oppressed.
Call it a “uniparty” if that helps you sleep at night—what matters is that I, and many others, see through the charade and fight for real change, not just the illusion of it.
Keep laughing; the change is coming, and no amount of sarcasm will stop it.
I’m just waiting for them to slip up and forget which account they’re signed into and directly praise Donald Trump.
I’m just waiting for them to slip up and forget which account they’re signed into and directly praise Donald Trump.
It’s becoming clear to me that you’re the one truly working for the Republicans. Your relentless questioning of anyone who dares to challenge the Democrat-Republican stranglehold is more than suspicious—it’s the mark of someone trying to protect the status quo. I see through your game, sowing confusion to keep people in line. You’re the agent of the Republicans, not me, and I hope others see it too.
As I have mentioned before, the vast majority of my posts are for workers rights, socialist causes, union issues, and education. I’ve contributed over 200 posts and comments to the Lemmy socialist community I created and that I mod. I’m a member of the Socialist Workers Party, and I support them financially. You can check out the sub here:
https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
and see my post history here:
https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts.
No one believes you’re a socialist or not simping for trump. It’s obvious as fuck.
LOL, for a headline that sounds like something out of The Onion, I’m surprised to see that Snopes wasted a second on this.
Who GAF?
what matters is Harris said it to show solidarity to the workers in the US to garner their votes
no matter what party the candidate is from if they are willing to lie to the voters what else would they lie about
Walz overfunding police so they would manhandle protesters that are against an oil pipeline but coming out as an environmentalist is the same thing too
matters who we put in office, and they should be held to a high standard
what matters is Harris said it to show solidarity to the workers in the US to garner their votes
What a perfectly sensible reason to let Trump come to power and order the military to start shooting protestors with live ammunition
Surely, the metrics of your political decision making are totally logical
so only Republicans need to be held to a standard but not Democrats because of Trump?
not to mention Walz got the police extra funding to put the boot to protesters and under federal approval under then President Trump in a bipartisan effort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Line_3_protests
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has not taken a firm stance on the pipeline expansion, which received federal approval under the Trump administration.[18][23]
So who are you voting for? And why?
not allowed to vote because of bipartisan politics
but Claudia De la Cruz would have my vote if were able to
seems to be genuinely for the people
Only reason you can’t legally vote in the US is if you’re a felon. Otherwise, you’re abstaining meaning you can vote you just choose not to.
more reasons than being a felon that keep US citizens from voting
Fascinating
Some of our readers aren’t from the US - you wanna expand a little for their benefit what bipartisan things besides being a felon might randomly disqualify someone from voting? They might not be first hand familiar with it like you are.
Very unlikely. Again, abstaining ≠ not being allowed to vote.
Wait, you’re serious?
HAHAHAHAHAha 😂😂😂
If you want to call her a liar, you can drop actual evidence or shut up.
Federal regs require employers to hold employment info for three years. My corp will literally shred and burn everything past that once a month because we don’t want the liability of that shit getting out.
We’re talking something 40 years ago, and most her friends then are probably gone and hazy. McDonald’s probably doesn’t have anything either.
There’s probably no photos, especially since that was well before digital cameras being a thing. You think some rando franchise owner is going to keep photos of some rando college kid cuz they might be president some day?
It’s not surprising there’s “no evidence”. What’s surprising is that you’re making an issue of it… without evidence.
It does matter who we put in office and they should be held to a high standard.
Unfortunately, it’s the fascist demagogue supported by Nazis or whoever the DNC put forward. Sooooooooo it’s not much of a choice.
Also, they’re politicians. They have easy tells for determining if they’re lying. Just look to see if their lips are moving.
You need a hobby.
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When she’s elected I hope McDonald’s throws up a giant “Employee of the Month” poster. ;)
Holy shit who gives a fuck? Jesus christ, conservatives. Grow the fuck up. You are all are mentally 12 years old and act like it. What’s next? You gonna make a big deal about something she wore once?
… who cares?
Sometimes people bounce from one job to another. College jobs don’t have to be her identity.
What a fucking non-story. “Retail giant keeps poor records of its disposable employees from FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO”. Piss off.
What the fuck kind of hilarious nonsense is this
Is she planning to deploy the military against protestors and have them seize the voting machines? Or destroy the departments of Education and Labor? No? Okay, cool, she’s got my vote. Now let’s move on to talking about either (a) how to make sure she wins, or (b) how we can get better behavior out of the Democrats on Gaza and climate policy.
Get this Fox News horseshit out of here, pls and thank you
Fox ENTERTAINMENT needs to be banned
did you read the article?
came from snopes.com not foxnews.com
do fact checkers not matter to Democrats either?
Is this your deciding factor in whether or not you vote for her? Because if it is, it’s extremely pathetic.
Did YOU read the article.
It basically says, there is no proof she worked at McD, but there also isn’t any proof she didn’t. It was 40 years ago.
So actually it says NOTHING. Why did you post it? To stir shit up out of hot air.
Shit, there’s roughly even odds that the records of her employment no longer exist because the franchise she worked at shut down, or destroyed them because they were 40 years old.
I used to work at a Sprint call center in the early '10s, but if you asked me to prove it I literally couldn’t, because the staffing agency I was hired through, the call center, and Sprint itself no longer exist. Doesn’t change that I worked there.
bOtH sIdEs
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Still waiting for verdantbanana to break down more about the US voting system to me
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Just thought maybe you two might know each other. Maybe you could ask him about responding to my question, and then I’ll get back to debunking your talking points? I really would like to of course but it’s bothering me that he doesn’t want to teach me about the US voting system. Makes it hard to focus on talking about a whole bunch of new topics besides the super important McDonalds’ thing we were talking about before.
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So you’re recommending we vote for Trump?
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Looking through your post history, I see a shot ton of Dem bashing, but nothing about trump… Given his stance on Israel, I guess that means you also support genocide. Is your real problem with Kamala that she is isn’t for an even faster genocide?
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Why in the hell is this even something to discuss?
ask yourself you just involved yourself in the discussion
This is just sad. Whether she lied about McDonald’s or not has no bearing at all on who I will vote for in the coming election. In the grand scheme of things this is meaningless. In fact if this is literally all that can be dug up about Harris it kind of speaks highly of her.
At the end of the day we all lose cause essentially elections are coming down to whoever is the lesser of two evils and not someone you stand behind.
Also: let me see if I understand the shifting narrative here. I thought a few days ago, the cons were pretending to concern-troll over how Kamala DID NOT put this on her resume and now they are demanding the
long form birth certificate, oops, I mean, the pay stubs, from 40 fucking years ago?Given how many brazen fucking lies donOLD has told over the course of his “career”, how does something like this even rate even if she is lying about working at McDs? I mean this guy used a Sharpie to update a fucking weather map tracking a GD hurricane, while doing the very job he is applying for right now.
Can they actually prove anyone worked at McDonalds that long ago? Aside from saving a pay stub for 40 years I don’t see how one could prove or disprove such a thing, I doubt the company keeps records of every employee that far back.
Also, and possibly more importantly…
…WHo FuKinG CArES?!?
60 comments in this thread. And snopes looking it up. So seems some people do.
Shit!
She coulda had @UniversalMonk@lemmy.world’s vote if only she [had|hadn’t] worked at McDonald’s
😞😭
Ah, the arrogance of the establishment!
See this brothers and sisters?! They think that by mocking and belittling those who dare to challenge their broken system, they can shame us into submission.
But they forget that ridicule only fuels the fire of our resolve.
Keep sneering, if you must, but know that every insult you hurl only strengthens our determination to stand against your candidate and the corrupt system they uphold.
How many people do ya think will change their minds and start voting for your candidate if you keep mocking and making fun of them? Hmmmm?
Gosh. I’m such an asshole…
Gosh. I’m such an asshole…
I wouldn’t call you that, as I respect everyone’s right to their opinions.
But it’s hard to take someone seriously when they resort to mocking and belittling others to make their point.
There’s a better way to have these discussions, one that doesn’t rely on tearing others down.
I’m sorry my crass comment made you feel belittled.
What can I do to make it up to you?
Social security records.
90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month, one of her aids could probably get it in an hour.
Does it matter tho?
Eh, it would be fucked up if she just flat out lied, but it’s hard to imagine she would lie about that.
If she proves it tho, they’ll make a new stupid claim and if she doesn’t prove it they’ll use this as evidence that she would prove it if it wasn’t true.
Social security records. 90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month
I tried this and it takes ages. I applied back on July 1st and haven’t heard a peep yet - apparently this can take many months or sometimes even years.
Man, you know what?
I was wrong.
I’m used to having to get other people’s records, to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.
Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald’s.
Try it yourself. Ssa.gov
I applied
Well, that’s not what anyone was talking about about…
I applied
Well, that’s not what anyone was talking about about…As clarification, I applied for the SSA-7050-F4 ( that is https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html ) in order to get my detailed earnings and employment history, and following this video as a guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH8H9U-SIs8
Considering what the thread was about - what did you think I said I had applied for? I’m genuinely curious now - as per https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/flyers/EBE_Flyer_Apply_for_your_Social_Security_Number_While_Applying_for_Your.pdf it takes just two weeks after applying for the SSN / SSN card itself to get it, while actually applying for benefits takes 3-5 months as per https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-benefits-long-does-180014897.html (which is ridiculously long but still not as bad as a year long wait).
to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.
Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald’s.Dang where were you two months ago lol - can you talk me through this? If I can pull down a record of who I worked for from their online website then this would be a really big help for me for personal reasons.
Try it yourself. Ssa.gov
I did but couldn’t find it - only saw my yearly and monthly earnings totals.
How to know when OP is unhinged and divisive:
People are agreeing with givesomefucks, who often gets down voted for unpopular views.
Truly, today is some interesting times.
Seems pretty ridiculous to judge the validity of an argument based on whether people agree with a particular commenter or not.
Ideas should be evaluated on their own merit, not dismissed because of who supports or opposes them.
This kind of thinking only stifles discussion and perpetuates division, which is exactly what we should be avoiding if we’re serious about finding solutions. Let’s focus on the content of the conversation, not the personalities involved.
It’s like when people think that them walking by causing street lights to go out.
We’re pattern recognition machines, and we have certain biases. People don’t notice all the streetlights that are working, just the ones that flicker. Either it happens right next to you, or you don’t notice.
Chances are you’re only looking at usernames when it’s really down voted. With the rare exception this time.
I bet if your scrolled thru my post history, you’ve up voted me more than youve down voted me.
Damn, you aren’t wrong!
She could have worked for a franchisee, too. If that was the case, a SMB owner is definitely not going to have those records after all this time
Assuming that franchise is still even open. How long does the US gov hold onto tax returns? The IRS says there’s usually no need to keep them after 6 years. The best evidence they could find would probably be a coworker that corroborates the story or a photograph of Harris behind the counter working. The photo seems unlikely, and how many coworkers from 30 years ago do you remember?
The Social Security Administration has a record of every employer that’s ever paid you and how much they paid you each year.
They have to for paying out social security.
So I actually tried this recently. Everything is done by paper and mail - even though I visited the office in person, they just mail it onwards.
Also, despite having an expected turnaround of six months officially, it turns out that wait times of multiple years are not uncommon once the request is submitted. So even if Harris submitted a request right now the election would be long over before she would have a copy of the records to prove it either way.
You’re talking about applying.
I’m talking about getting your work history.
Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.
You’re talking about applying.
… for my work history.
Specifically, using SSA-7050-F4, https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TwOUSn34I
I’m talking about getting your work history.
Yes, me too!
Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.
Err, so from https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html
Your online Statement displays your yearly earnings history free of charge but does not show any employer information.
I.e. you can create the account and view the info online pretty quick but it won’t have the proof that you worked at McD back in the 80s or 90s.
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I can’t think of any way how I could proof the first job I had during school in the late 90’s. I was working in a restaurant kitchen, peeling potatoes and stuff. You don’t take photos there or keep name tags or other keepsakes. It was a shitty job, you want to forget about it, as soon as you left the premises.
Kamala Harris’ job is even longer ago. 40 years is a long time to keep paystubs or something. There were no camera phones back then, no digital footprint you could recreate. That she can’t produce any proof, doesn’t proof anything.
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I’m pretty sure this can be verified with SS records so maybe wait and see?
Eventually, yes, just that the SS is both a dinosaur and a sloth so expect it to take forever - I’ve personally tried this.
Lying is bad of course, but when she is running against the liar in chief it hardy seems significant. For a country that desperately needs to avoid Trump 2.0, this seems like more of a distraction.
Agreed. Even if she flubbed and made a mistake/misremembered (like say she took on a friend’s shifts or something without actually being employed there, or she somehow misremembered the restaurant) that’s hardly a reason for a no vote. I mean, c’mon, really!
