Primitive forms of innoculation, antiseptic, and pasteurizing go back centuries if not millennia. The very idea of the small pox vaccine came out of the recognition that cow pox mitigated the risk of contagion. Milk maids were (unwittingly) vaccinating themselves for some time.
And pasteurization is just cooking your food. Hell, the whole reason primitive people started baking bread, roasting meat, and brewing beer came down to the benefits of sterilization.
These aren’t even new ideas, per say. They’re advances in technique, understanding of consequence, and means of distribution.
Pasteurization is even below what most would consider as cooking temperature. It’s getting your food really hot for a while but not boiling. It’s kind of like edging but in cooking.
the whole reason primitive people started baking bread, roasting meat,
It’s to start the break down of food. We evolved to outsource our digestion to cooking.
Brewing beer is entirely different though.
It’s to start the break down of food.
That too. But killing parasites in meat and fish is another big benefit.
We evolved to outsource our digestion to cooking.
To a degree. But we also just died more often to infection and disease. Cooking reduced mortality rates, which spurred a larger population, whose members transmitted the knowledge of how and what to cook before eating.
I mean our evolution really kicked off so to speak from outsourcing our digestion. That meant more calories could go to the brain. That’s the aspect I’m focused on.
Well… if you want to get really into anthropology, there’s an argument that outsourcing our digestion (via early agriculture) actually made us a lot weaker and dumber. It was social pressure (often explicit enslavement) that forced people into the agricultural lifestyle. But that a booming population powered by cheap, reliable agriculture allowed multitudes to outperform by volume what exceptionally smart and strong but scarce individuals achieved in small tribes.
More advanced forms of sterilization became necessary as populations hit certain critical levels of risk for pathogens and other hygiene problems. And so modern techniques, like vaccination and pasteurization, are really just extensions of this ten-thousand year trend towards urbanization that require health and safety precautions as a condition of our dense population centers.
This wasn’t just biological evolution. Our ability to process, transmit, and record information made our species heavily dependent on these technological techniques and the passing down of the instructions to perform them. The health risks are now bound up in our ability to maintain a working, useful library of information and to perform the rituals necessary to keep our food and water sufficiently sterile.
Agriculture is different than cooking.
Try eating raw grain.
We were cooking wayyyyyyyyyyy before agriculture.
love your username lmao
If you want to be all natural, get off the internet.
Stop eating modern vegetables and fruits.
Return to monke.
Just in case - I did not mean you, just the people who spew such shit.
Like my mother. Jesus, I had to explain a lot to her for her to stop saying that stuff near me.
No modern grains: find the original wild versions of wheat, corn, and rice and only process and eat those.
Haha. Good point. Also good luck with anyone being able to do that.
It’s been optimized over 100s (1000s probably) of years. It’s definitely better because of it.
Where’s that tweet where an anti-vaxxer used the bubonic plague as an example of a disease that went away on its own.
Looks like diphtheria is back on the menu boys
Malaria has killed a quarter of all humans who ever lived.
Obviously we need to abandon our tools for fighting disease.
Indeed. Only death will cure what ails our society. /s
Go climate catastrophy!
Make Papa Nurgle proud!
my grandad used to buy fresh milk from a farmer around the corner - until he got salmonella from it and almost died
A world population graph from 1900 til now would be an adequate answer for that question.
No, graph of life expectancy would.
Too much for the world to bear to way too much?
Remember the fucking plague? It’s making a comeback!
“farewell” and “last date ever”, they always say. As soon as the money runs out… BAM! Time for another tour.
We are the plague.
And then, John was a zombie.
I saw one on Tiktok today, who worked those jobs before immigrants?
Slaves. Slaves worked those jobs. Then former slaves treated like slaves. Then immigrants. Literally right into the 1940s and then Mexican labor was imported.
As the former slaves’ descendants were increasingly shoehorned into the new industrial prison complex
Well that’s just lying be omission. Lots of people were disabled or disfigured too.
Look up an old newspaper from say 100-120 years ago and check out the obituaries.
Or just walk through an old graveyard. There’s a pioneer cemetery near my old place with so many children’s graves. One family gravesite has the mother’s name, the father’s name, a couple of their kids, some young, some adults… and one is just titled ‘babies’.
Like, so many babies died for that mother and father they just put them all in one grave, not even names to remember them by…
SEWARD, Mark – Died at Gooseberry Cove, Trinity Bay, on the 2nd inst. [January 1891], Mark, youngest child of Thomas and Rosanna Seward, aged 4 years.
SEWARD, Peter – Died on the 10th inst., Peter, second youngest son of Robert and Mary A. Seward, aged 2 years.
SEWARD – Died on the 14th inst., infant child of James and Mary A. Seward.
SEWARD, Richard – Died on the 15th inst., Richard, youngest son of Joseph and Louisa Seward, aged 4 years.
SEWARD, James – Died on the 19th inst., James, second youngest child of James and Mary A. Seward, aged 2 years (Evening Telegram, January 29, 1891)
They got sick enmass, some (alot) died some recovered
ask any old-timer about polio, and why we don’t worry about it as much now.
Well, maybe not any old-timer…a lot have fallen into that conspiracy black hole
Yeah you know what else is all natural? Air. But guess what you don’t inject into your blood?
You haven’t lived until you’ve experienced the thrill of watching an air bubble go down the tube and in through your IV!
It’s not super dangerous in a normal IV unless it’s a lot of air, fortunately.
small rocks? no. wood? … a witch!
Heroin. I don’t inject heroin into my blood.
People out there offering you free drugs and you say no?
Walk into any old graveyard and notice all the tiny little tombstones of children who died before the age of two. Before vaccines were in use.
Now notice how almost NONE of those tombstones are recent.
Obviously they aren’t recent, it’s an old graveyard.
You know why nobody living in a town gets buried in its cemetery? Because they are living.
Smaller graves fit more efficiently into the cemetary, AND they stimulate the economy via the funeral industry, which Im heavily invested in!
- Some political ghoul, probably
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