Milkdrop is in Kodi these days, so my winamp love affair is more nostalgic than anything real
Is it still possible to get the source code? I never knew it was available.
What is this “AtRiskRepos” thing? 👀
No idea. I found the link over at Hacker News from this comment. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41861376
At risk of un open sourcing their code, taking their ball and going home
It’s a place for software that comes from a broken home and would otherwise be hanging out on the street in high-crime areas.
I’m using foobar2000. Should I be using something else?
I’m an old soul so I use music bee with the Tron skin, it’s very 2000s
Still miss foobar which isn’t on Linux, though deadbeef is fairly similar at least. Never got the hang of all the beautiful themes/skins users put together for foobar but it was still my go to music player. Excellent layout customisation, tagging and conversion UI, as well as as nice range of plugins
I really like deadbeef, coming from fb2k as well. Someone recommended it to me two weeks ago, and I’ve immediately recognized the similarities.
Foobar’s Dev should have just taken their project open source imo. Although I suspect winamp’s lawyers would have jumped on that.
Foobar is still the best there is, although the classic style interface might not appeal to younger people.
I’m surprised they kept it up for so long honestly. It was very clear they had no fucking clue what they were doing. What with the nonsensical license that violated Github’s tos, the Dolby Code they leaked, and the fact they kept every commit public for everyone to see.
And it’s not like deleting will fix it now, it’s been copied millions of times now.
WACUP
Replacing native Winamp code with modern code with frequent updates by one of the most prolific classic Winamp developers.
It’s fantastic.
And you can set the visuals to unlimited fps, which is fun on a good screen
Geiss support tho?
But does it whip the llamas ass?
Naturally
wacup! it really whips the ladspa’s ass!
That’s so interesting!
What a shame that it isn’t open source.
I’ll happily continue to use Audacious with a Winamp skin.
Well, given the very unorthodox nature of it as it is today, I don’t know that Dr0 can legally open source it until he’s finished replacing literally all legacy functions with new code, even if they wanted to. But I can understand your position.
Whether that’s the case or not, I think it is secondary to the fact that he clearly says on the website that he definitely doesn’t want it to go open source, for as long as he is working on it.
He defines that as wanting to be in control of the project so long as he has the passion to work on it solo. But it’s somewhat implied that if he had to let it go, he may open source his work. I can understand that. DrO was one of the primary and most prolific Winamp plugin devs back in it’s heyday as well. So if you ever used Winamp itself (closed source) you have already trusted his code on much more vulnerable OSes, imo.
I feel like he’s earned the limited trust this requires.
Can someone explain me what’s the business model of an app that’s free for three decades? They claim to have 100 devs, how can they pay them?
They’re sponsored by WinRAR. Those guys are loaded.
Is this real?
No, sorry, it’s a jab about how no one paid for WinRAR either.
WinRAR did make piles of money by focusing on the commercial market. They really didn’t care if home users went past the free trial period, but they did care if you were a business.
I don’t know what WinAmp does, or ever did.
Real player is more of an alternative to winamp, I was surprised to see real.com. So no…
I’m thinking no.
The current revived version appears to be tied to a content streaming platform for “creators,” and also sells NFT’s. The mothership certainly gets a cut of all of those sales. Just like seemingly every other techbro venture nowadays, their business model entirely revolves around being a “service,” and the media player itself is apparently just a side hobby. (Note that this is basically exactly the same mutation that happened to Napster. That worked well.)
Otherwise, the answer is sponsorship by a corporate sugar daddy. Even the OG Winamp was sponsored by and then ultimately bought outright by AOL.
sells NFTs*
Llolma
kicked by the llamas ass
I used VLC before and ill continue using VLC
i use musicbee for audio. vlc for video. musicbee is the most like mediamonkey used to be and free. got into vlc because of its better support of the unusual video formats
I use audacious. It’s perfect.
Same even my school used vlc wayy before I knew floss software
VLC UX kinda sucks, but it does everything I need it to.
What sucks about it? I just use it because it seems to play literally any video format
The UX.
The functionality is great, and like you said, it can play pretty much anything. But the UX feels like it’s stuck in the late 90s, and the following are more ugly and painful than they need to be:
- playlists
- streaming
- converting file types
It can do a ton of stuff, but none of it is particularly intuitive, because the UX sucks. But it works great at the basic functionality I need, which is playing pretty much any video format.
Agreed, considering VLCs functionality it can look ugly as hell
I am proud to be one of the 2.6k people who illegally forked winamp
Unsurprising given that their repo’s license was a contradictory mess
Anyways I’d recommend using Strawberry instead
It’s an actual Free and Open Source music player:
…That site’s UI looks like someone saw the marketing literature for the Frigidaire produce preserver and said, “Yeah, that’ll do.”
lmao😆
btw did you mean the background?
UI typically refers to the user interactable elementsThe whole look n’ feel. Not UI, then, maybe just call it overall design.
But it was the first thing I thought of as soon as I saw it. Even the cursive font, in pink…
Especially the pink cursive font.
The whole look n’ feel. Not UI, then, maybe just call it overall design. Even the cursive font, in pink…
ohhh yeah now that you mention it I can totally see it
The wavey font got me!
Strawberry doesn’t appear to include a visualizer?
it looks like there’s a light-blue-on-white strip visualizer over the timeline at the bottom.
That will not suffice
Strawberry doesn’t support about a dozen audio formats I use, so until it’s got wider support I have to pass.
You have support for .wav .flac .mp3 .opus, why would you use anything else?
If it doesn’t play Amiga era .mod files, is it really even a music player?
Funny enough, it does. Here’s the full list of supported formats. Line 54:
const char FileView::kFileFilter = ".wav *.flac *.wv *.ogg *.oga *.opus *.spx *.ape .mpc " ".mp2 *.mp3 *.m4a *.mp4 *.aac *.asf *.asx .wma " ".aif *.aiff *.mka *.tta *.dsf .dsd " ".cue *.m3u *.m3u8 *.pls *.xspf .asxini " ".ac3 .dts " ".mod *.s3m *.xm .it" ".spc *.vgm";
Although like .spc, it doesn’t support seeking, you have to listen to the whole file in order or restart for the beginning.
Because hard drives aren’t getting any bigger lately and I don’t want to multiply the size of my videogame music collection by ten?
You are saving your music in a format more efficient than opus or aac? What format is that?
Chiptune formats for retro videogame music can be very efficient. Just picking two with particularly good music, I have a 21 KB (0.02 MB) file storing 28:30 of music and 4.72 MB of files storing 1:54:48 of music, both at source quality.
The catch is that they are designed exclusively to rip chiptunes from retro videogames as close as the format designers and player coders could manage to the original. So even the oversized ones like the 4.72 MB of files extracted from a 3 MB game are going to be far smaller than a general use format like opus. But you can’t encode your own music in the format without going to massive effort to code it like you would an authentic chiptune, and you’re unlikely to like the results.
Can you name the format you’re using to store 1:54:48 of music in 4.72 MB?
Those are SPC files, and that particular example was one rip of Final Fantasy VI (III)'s soundtrack.
Unfortunately, it only handles music embedded in Super Famicom/Super Nintendo games. To convert your own music to SPC, you’d have to rewrite it for the SNES sound chip.
Damn, may I ask how big your entire library is? At those sizes, you can store more music than I’ll ever need in a couple of gbs.
Everything filed under “Chiptune”, excluding the AT3 and MAB files which are effectively general purpose music formats, comes to 1.14 GB for 4211 items totaling 158:50:29. There are a lot of duplicates in there, because for a lot of these items it’s more trouble to hunt down a replacement copy than it is to store a backup.
The catch, of course, is that it’s all retro videogame music from bleep to bloop.
What formats?
Ten chiptune formats, two other videogame music formats (.at3 and .mab), WMA, IT, AAC, MP2, and MIDI.
.xcf
Where do you even get an audio file with a .xcf format?
save from gimp!
You get your music from GIMP?
you downvoted me?
is joke.
We used to pipe all sorts of 💩 to
/dev/dspjust to know how it would sound 🤓
Idk but I imagine that guy did find it somewhere.
I mostly use mpv to play local music nowadays. (Most of the music I play is streamed using a Navidrome server with Feishin as the frontend.) Back when I did use a proper audio player on Linux, Harmonoid was my go-to.
Will strawberry let me play a folder as a playlist from the DE’s context menus? Like right click > play in strawberry.
Lovely that it is open source, but dear lord that UI is a blast from the past 😂😂 👴👵🏚️
It’s ugly af. Hope some designer can volunteer to set them straight.
It’s an Amarok fork, so yes
So that’s why I thought: finally a viable Amarok replacement.
Most players out there seem to be built for like 40 songs?
Oh that makes sense. I think I last used Amarok 20 years ago.
Nice profile picture!
Thanks!
most people don’t notice🤗
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It’s more likely to survive the company if it’s FOSS. The app was dormant for a long time.
If it actually were FOSS instead of source available(do not copy), yes.
Well, that really sucks the llama’s ass.
Uhhh
I just use Audacious with a winamp skin. Looks identical but actually FOSS.
Been doing this recently too. I’ve just got the default Winamp skin, but it’s so nice to have that part of my childhood back.
vlc my beloved
