The whole scalper thing these last several years makes me very glad I’m just a PC guy, know how to build my own stuff, and that nearly all games get ported to PC now.
The high end PC part market, especially GPUs, is heavily controlled by scalpers as well, similar to brand new consoles.
That’s true, but you don’t need super high-end parts to game on PC. You do need a PS5 to play PS5 games.
Genuine question: What PC can I buy to get PS5 equivalent performance to play the same games?
Depends on effort and money. Ps5 wouldnt be too hard to beat, pro is a bit harder.
Find a video that someone calls their PC a ps5 or ps5 pro killer, go up a couple steps on the important shit, done.
If money is a concern, second hand for CPUs and GPUs is fine. If money isn’t a concern just throw a large pile at a major manufacturer. I have a high end gaming laptop that is super bad value but it definitely crushes every console by a significant margin.
Do you build your own gpus too? Between ML and chip shortage, PC builders were affected much worse than any console users.
That wasn’t my experience.
I had a Lenovo Legion I bought in 2019 that lasted me until last week when I decided to upgrade to an ASUS ROG. One doesn’t need high-end parts to game on PC and the technology does a much better job of keeping up with games as they become more advanced.
So no, you don’t build you own.
Yes, I do.
But that’s beside the point. You don’t need those high-end parts to game on PC.
You built your own Lenovo, gotcha.
Sure, but you’re comparing apples to oranges. If you personally play older or not gpu intensive games at medium settings, then you can absolutely buy a gpu once every 7-10 years and not be affected by any scalpers. NES emulators are pretty cheap right now :-) You can also get an Intel GPU for under MSRP.
Obviously a hyperbole, but PC gamers looking for latest and greatest were affected much worse than console gamers wanting the latest stuff.
Just the crypto hype alone made it nearly impossible to get a decent gpu for years.
Sure, but you’re comparing apples to oranges.
This discussion is about general accessibility. Obviously I’m not referring to people who do cartwheels for the absolute latest tech.
Ps5 pro was released a few days ago. Otherwise why are we even talking about scalpers and availability?
Was it? I’ve been hearing about it for what feels like months, I figured it launched ages ago
And now AI, and NVIDIA gimped every GPU in their lineup, except the 90s.
I finally created a Steam account when I realized I don’t need to get a PS Vita to play Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus. Steam has been getting quality games for years and I wasn’t paying attention.
Nice!
Gaming, I find, is just way more accessible on PC than console.
With even Sony capitulating and releasing big titles like God of War, Spiderman and Horizon on PC, the PC is the clear winner this gen.
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Oh, that’s a shame.
While I’m fine with them losing money, couldn’t they just return it to wherever they bought it for purchase price? Like if I pre-order a ps5 pro from gamestop and don’t open the box, I could just return it? Unless return policies have greatly changed…
Those stores are aware of scalpers at this point and have built it into their return policy, I believe.
What? And here I have saved up a good three fiddy! Last offer guys!
Damn you Loch Ness Monsta! Now I done told you I ain’t about to be sellin you no Ps5 Pro for no Tree Fiddy!
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That’s some good news for a change.
The $700 price tag suddenly makes a lot more sense.
It’s a small win but I’ll take it.
as it should be.
Thanks Sony for making such a flop that scalpers need to sell at a loss.
I don’t think it’s flopping. I think they’ve just had plenty of time to get supply in order.
Just keep it sealed until China invades Taiwan next year and the supply dries up. Or for Trump’s tariffs to cause a price increase. Or for Trump banning violent video games like he said he would.
It’s a big win overall, but some of the scumbags still got something out of it:
Even though scalpers are taking a loss on the Pro, those who banked on people flocking to buy the PS5 disc drive are turning a profit. The Pro is digital only which means you’ll need to buy a disc drive if you want to use it to play physical media. It took a while, but the disc drive appears to be sold out everywhere which means people are buying them for inflated prices through resale sites.
Not the worst thing but still annoying, like whatever the opposite of a silver lining is.
Ah yes, the “pro” product with fewer features and versatility, I love it!
Enshittification
Poo-filled center?
I would argue poo would be the opposite of a higher tier material like gold. Spit maybe?
Yeah, that sucks but at this point I’ll take any win I can get over scalpers.
Good.
The PS5 is perfectly adequate considering it’s price.
It’s not like the PS4 gen where 4K suddenly became a thing halfway through and they had to pivot to support it. This is a needless upgrade. If you were already obsessed with graphical wankery and have more money than sense, the RTX 4080 and 4090 are right there.
They’re charging new-gen console money for new-gen console hardware upgrades, but all the games are still being made for the non-pro PS5, and they will continue to be made for the old hardware until the PS6 launches, so there’s no reason to upgrade.
Same reason I’m perfectly happy with my Series S. The only substantial difference between it and the Series X are the storage space and disc drives, and I play gamepass games almost exclusively.
I think the main price issue is that they’re charging nearly twice as much as the base console for what is charitably going to be half a generation of gaming on it.
If it was launched this way on day one of PS5 launch it would have been a much more attractive proposition. But the reality is we’re probably like three years from a PS6 that will eclipse it in every way while running games this one cannot.
Yeah.
The only real reason to own this console is if you want improved performance on a $10,000 TV that you sit too close to.
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