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Hahahahahahha
What a fucking joke
And Tulsi for DNI lmaowtfbbq
Special thanks to the folks who didn’t vote this election! Couldn’t have done it without you!
Harris did better than Biden in the key swing states. Be mad at the people who turned out for Trump.
Those of you downvoting me, look at the vote totals for swing states in 2020 vs 2024. It is insane to me that “be mad at the people who voted for Trump” is a hot take.
Swing states don’t matter when the whole country is swept.
I mean, yes they do? If Harris had won those swing states, she’d have won the EC. And her turnout was higher than Biden’s. It’s just that Trump’s was even higher.
Look at the number of eligible voters that didn’t vote. Their point is 100% valid, just like it has been for pretty much every election. This time is just extra inexcusable because of what we’ve collectively lost.
Their point isn’t valid when you cannot guarantee every non voter was actually a lost vote for Harris. You don’t know who they were going to vote for.
Democrats historically do better in years with higher turnout.
Cool. Historically, convicted felons don’t get elected to the presidency but here we are.
That has nothing to do with the voter turnout issue, so I’m not sure why you brought it up.
History doesn’t predict future, that was his point.
Those of you downvoting me, look at the vote totals for swing states in 2020 vs 2024.
Ok…
https://www.270towin.com/2020-election-results-live/
https://www.270towin.com/2024-election-results-live/Pennsylvania 20/19
Biden* 3,458,229^ 50.0%
Harris 3,396,770 48.6%Arizona 11
Biden* 1,672,143^ 49.4%
Harris 1,534,391 46.6%Georgia 16
Biden* 2,474,601 49.5%
Harris 2,548,014^ 48.5%Michigan 16/15
Biden* 2,804,040^ 50.6%
Harris 2,733,352 48.3%Nevada 6
Biden* 703,486^ 50.1%
Harris 702,079 47.5%North Carolina 15/16
Biden 2,684,292 48.7%
Harris 2,689,067^ 47.7%Wisconsin 10
Biden* 1,630,503 49.6%
Harris 1,668,077^ 48.8%- Biden won six of the swing states. Harris won zero.
- Compared to Trump, Biden won a higher percentage than Harris in all seven.
- Biden got more votes in four states. Harris got more votes in three.
Totals:
Biden 3,458,229 + 1,672,143 + 2,474,601 + 2,804,040 + 703,486 + 2,684,292 + 1,630,503 = 15,427,294Harris 3,396,770 + 1,534,391 + 2,548,014 + 2,733,352 + 702,079 + 2,689,067 + 1,668,077 = 15,271,750
15,427,294 - 15,271,750 = 155,544 more votes for Biden.
2024 Trump turnout beat 2020 Biden turnout in the swing states. People are mad that Dems didn’t turn out, but my point is that Harris did better in some of the swing states or nearly as well in the other ones, and Trump beat the 2020 numbers. It wasn’t that Dems didn’t turn out in these crucial states, it’s that more Trump ones did. I don’t know why you thought leaving Trump’s votes out of your analysis was wise cause him winning was kind of the entire point.
I don’t know why people are so eager to be mad at anyone other than fucking Trump voters. They actively chose this, they spoke resoundingly clear. All these excuses, all these reasons, all these scenarios. It’s insanity to me. Desi Lydic nailed exactly how I’m feeling: I don’t care why she lost, I care why he won.
First, I’m not mad at anyone.
I’m only offering you the raw data to illustrate that your initial point, as you wrote it, was incorrect. Biden did slightly better than Harris in the swing state total. Trump seemed irrelevant to your earlier point.
It seems your point should have simply been that more people voted for a Trump than Harris. And, as the numbers suggest, it’s plausible many of them had switched from Biden to Trump. So, if you want to “be mad” at anyone, it would be either Biden’s administration or Harris’ campaign.
Although, I feel it’s worth more of our time focusing on the last bit - how is it that people are so disconnected from reality that Trump was ever a consideration. How is it that practically everyone believes everything they hear or read and use it to enforce their narrative?
If I’m mad at anything, it’s boisterous claims being spread through social media without anyone caring enough to determine if the claim is true or not.
Like that Harris lost because people didn’t vote? Yeah, me too.
He gonna pardon Diddy
If he were white he would
Nah I bet he’ll accept bribes like last term.
Yeah honestly diddy is going to die at this rate.
Perfect. Beavis for the win.
I think he’d be Butthead given his hair style and color, no?
Maybe we fight the next world war on American soil
What are you talking about we lost without firing a shot.
I miss being surprised when rapists and pedophiles get handily rewarded for their crimes
Well when pedophiles and rapists are dealing out the rewards…
That would seem to very much be the case, wouldn’t it? Can’t really explain it otherwise
Make America Shitty Again!
And R Kelly named Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Perfect, an actual trafficker of underage girls
Oh great, Attorney general butthead.
This looks like one of those superhero movies where they ran out of ideas so they just throw in every villain they can think of.
Also it was very common in 90s beatem-ups, where the last stage was just wave after wave of the previous bosses.
Does this mean we’re near the end?
If you needed a sign
Trump is literally filling his cabinet with people he things will “trigger the libs”. It’s honestly quite beautiful watching him set himself of for complete and utter failure. This was always the state of right-wing politics, now the brainrot has full control over the Government.
Like last time, I think the only campaign promise he’ll be able to keep will be cutting taxes for the rich. Outside of that, this admin is going to be a complete chaotic disaster.
They’ll tear it apart before it implodes. There won’t be some easy return to normalcy.
Implying he’s the one picking anything
It doesn’t seem like it’s someone competent. These aren’t even good at being bad, they’re just bad.
I think that’s the point, either switch to the person you really wanted when these get shot down or put them in and really wreck everything.
So, by that logic, we can probably expect Ted Cruz to be the next guy in Grover 2.0’s cabinet.
What are the odds he appoints enough reps and/or senators that they end up the minority in at least one half of Congress?
That would be pretty stupid even for him, but nothing is off the table anymore, so fingers crossed.
How many more are going to come out of the clown car? This is quite a performance.
So I guess fucking underage kids is a thing now.
Pretty sure it always had been. Catholic church been doing that for millenia
Insane, insane,
here comes the pardon for Ghislaine.
This is absolutely the wrong person for the job (if you’re Trump). This is basically good news.
Gaetz has literally no demonstrable experience as an attorney that would help him in this role. He got his license to practice law in 2008 and has periodically worked at Keefe Anchors & Gordon where he only practiced real estate, employment, property insurance, and contract law and later lost his law license because he forgot to pay his dues (while in office, where having that kind of credential could be valuable). KAG (now AnchorsGordon) appears to mostly have employed him as a political tool, not as a legitimate attorney that represented their clients directly. There are few if any legal documents with his name on them, so he very likely did very little actual legal work during his employment there.
Since then over 400 alumni of his Alma Mater have described him as “unfit to write or determine the law”.
This is a position you want a competent and experienced attorney serving your administration. Gaetz may be a yes-man for Trump, but this is a massive strategic mistake for him and his goals. Trump’s proposals so far are absolutely guaranteed to be challenged by the courts if he moves on them, and Gaetz is going to be literally the worst possible representative you could choose to try to defend your admin in that scenario.
You’re overlooking the fact that DOJ lawyers, provided by the Herritage Foundation and FedSoc will be arguing those cases. Gaetz just needs to do what he’s told.
You seem to think that the incoming administration will be following established laws, regulations, procedures, etc.
They will not.
Gaetz is the chess-playing pigeon that knocks over the pieces and shits on the board.
That is some industrial grade hopium.
Here’s a fun theory. He wants Gaetz to oversee as many possible federal criminal cases against Trump as possible. His job would be to bring everything to court and throw the cases. Hello double jeopardy.
Based on the fact that Trump has relatively little interest in any “platform” he has announced and it’s mostly about every trick possible to advance his personal situation. He doesn’t want competence, he wants people that will do whatever he says no matter what hand the intelligence into Putin’s hands, make the military Trump loyalists, quash any future legal troubles from the FBI/DoJ.
While I’m sure he’s willing to let people have a go at enacting his campaign rhetoric, in any way that conflicts with a system that might hold Trump accountable, that rhetoric can be compromised.
