Like the German version of Nazis before them, they aren’t coming for their biggest target first. They’re coming for their political opposition, the “abortionists”, the atheists, the drug users, the mentally ill…
RFK Jr.:
“I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,”
Re-education camps, huh.
The guy who couldn’t build A WALL is going to orchestrate a mass deportation on millions and millions of people? Ok. Lol. Also, what happens when fruit/vegetables start to rot on the vine because they don’t have anyone who will take their shit wages to do it.
We bail out all the farmers as we’ve always done.
he will 100% focus on “Democrat cities” before he ever rounds up farm workers.
Again, he ain’t gunna do shit. He’s all talk. I’m not here for the doomer end of democracy shit either.
I stand firmly by this statement: “Politics are never as good as they seem and they are never as bad as they seem.”
He already did this. 8 years ago. I mean it could have been a lot worse if he were competent but it was already horrible.
And he had a bunch of people telling him no along the way. I don’t know why people aren’t getting this. There. Are. No. Guard. Rails. This. Time.
He already tried a bunch of the shit people are saying he would never do. Now he can do them. Good fucking job.
There are guard rails, but their nature is different.
They can control every single major position in the federal government. Doesn’t matter, because they’re all working at cross purposes. See, fascism gives the appearance of a united front because it rallies around a singular leader, but it’s not. Everyone below that leader is trying to stab each other in the back in order to be in the good graces of the leader.
That alone would tie them in knots of their own creation, but it’s possible to exploit it further. Publicize the consequences far and wide. Getting Trump to yell at his own staff isn’t difficult, and he’ll fire them and replace them with someone even dumber. With Congress being close to split, It’s even possible cabinet positions empty out with no replacements for the rest of the Administration.
See, fascism gives the appearance of a united front because it rallies around a singular leader, but it’s not. Everyone below that leader is trying to stab each other in the back in order to be in the good graces of the leader.
That Nazis were actually very incompetent at governing. It didn’t stop them from committing the Holocaust.
Yes, that’s true. But their system is not our system. We have opportunities to exploit. History does not have to repeat itself.
Except this time they really are as bad as seem, and middle-ground people like you are a big part of why we are in this mess. Sure, maybe the Cunt is all talk and no bite rn, but he’s still gonna try and do stupid shit and the more we let him (and people like him) get away with it the more this whole thing falls apart. This is quite literally the end of democracy type shit that happens every time an empire falls. If you’re too blinded by your rose tinted glasses to see this happening, just wait 4 years when the Cunt runs again and we let it happen like a bunch of fucking idiot minions.
middle-ground people like you are a big part of why we are in this mess
I am in no way, shape, or form “middle-ground” and your assumption that I’m a centrist because I don’t completely agree on the other side’s competence is asinine. I am a through and through progressive. But guess what? All you can do is vote. No amount of whining online will change anything. My optimistic views on his ineptitude and the likely in-fighting in the republican party will stifle things is my opinion, and I’m sorry you feel differently. Screaming from the rooftops that the end is coming will not help either, dude. Get off the internet and go do something that helps you.
But guess what? All you can do is vote.
What are you talking about? Voting is the very least you can do. Get active. Contact your representatives. Take to the streets in protest. Stand up for something. You call him a defeatist and then say there’s nothing more to do.
Take your own advice and get off the internet and do something that helps you. Hoping the Repubs consume themselves doesn’t do shit. That’s not an ‘optimistic’ view. It’s a lazy and cowardly one.
What have YOU done to help?
So no actual answer, just an attempt at redirection.
… never as good as they seem and they are never as bad as they seem.
This argument is, by literal definition, a middle-ground. It’s also an exceedingly dangerous and naive idea, especially when it leads to us electing actual pedophiles and rapists to make decisions for us on a national level. Its an idea shared by far too many people in this world and perpetuated by those at the top for the sole purpose of driving us all apart and preventing anyone from ever caring enough to do anything about it. This has fuck-all to do with opinions and everything to do with reality that is happening right now. Ineptitude is always lethal, and doubly so when it leads an army of morons that bend to its every whim while sitting at home saying “He’s not that bad”.
Also, side quest/point, voting is a statistically meaningless activity (still do it, you dummies) and is absolutely not the only thing one can do. DO whine about it all online. DO scream about it from the rooftops. DO make a big loud, obnoxious shitstorm so big that all the idiots that dumbly stare at the fire as it burns us all alive have to actually get up and join the conversation.
I actually tend to agree that it’s not going to be as bad as it looks right now. It’s never as bad as the pessimists think it’s going to be.
However, the pessimists think it’s going to be very, very bad. It’s only going to end being being merely bad.
You’re not wrong that their lack of competence will get in the way. However, I think you are wrong in how that’s going to play out. The first attempts are going to be a boondoggle. They will still hurt countless people. The strategy at that point should be to wrap them up dealing with the consequences of that boondoggle so that they can’t accomplish much else until we can build real working class power.
But that second part doesn’t happen on its own.
It’s never as bad as the pessimists think it’s going to be
That depends on the timescale you are considering. Most of the people who would tell you otherwise because they were suffering in WW2 are dead by now. If you have spent your entire life in a comparatively stable and safe environment (like I did), you might assume that things can’t get that bad.
I think an assumption like that is dangerous, because it gives you a false sense of security
I stand firmly by this statement: “Politics are never as good as they seem and they are never as bad as they seem.”
That works until it doesn’t. “I assume neither side is actually a Hitler,” is a perfectly good heuristic, until one side actually goes and nominates a Hitler. Then that heuristic failures spectacularly and you end up electing a Hitler.
You misunderstood. I think one side is much worse than the other.
…until he doesn’t. Or changes his mind tomorrow. Or whatever.
Why the fuck are we still treating this guy as if he’s anything more than a walking talking stream of consciousness?
Because he surrounds himself with people that are serious as a heart attack about their sick, freakish ideology.
Saw this one coming. He’ll do the same to justify ending elections.
100% this is a trial for emergency actions to end elections.
Next up: arson attack on US Congress. And then the Enabling Act.
Didn’t the Canadian burn the Whitehouse down once or something?
Twice.
Don’t make us come down there a third time, I swear to Gord.
If you go for the hat trick, may Gord find mercy in your heart to annex the TI region on your march back.
I swear to Gord
Deliberate misspelling of “God“, famous hockey player, or short for Gordon? More than one of the above?
Honestly, I’m not seeing a downside here.
From Canadian POV the US is the down side.
That’s not true. It was the British, and it happened once in 1814. And it didn’t “burn down.”
Hypothetically, what would trigger you guys? Just asking questions…
It usually takes a Canadian Bacon moment where the US actually tries to take part of our sovereign territory by force.
Of course, that’s assuming Trump doesn’t get his wish and Pollievre becomes PM. Because in that case, we’ll likely be too busy fighting our own fascist battles up here to even respond.
Buzz Lightyear: “Fascists! Fascists everywhere!”
Man, I hate to say it out loud, but the current state of Canadian politics isn’t looking great. RIP CBC, at the very least.
Maybe if we’re really lucky Trump will do some absolutely insane shit and his connection to Pollievre will work against the CPC. Mind you, I can’t say I am looking forward to another Liberal government either, but such is the way of the two party system.
If the NDP chose a new, outspoken leader who was a straight white male, they might have a chance.
I hate that sentence, but you’re right, and I ultimately think it would be better for Canada than any of the other two options.
Disparaging Canadian geese does tend to get them riled
You’ve got a problem with Canada gooses, you got a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate!
It’s almost not worth thinkin’ about
American here: genuinely, I would appreciate it if you did.
Don’t. Please. Whatever will we do to stop you? /s
Canadians conservatives burnt down their own parliament too.
My crazy prediction is that trump will try to duplicate the burning of the Reichstag. Except, in typical fashion, he will do so in a comically inept fashion. He’ll try to burn down the Reichstag, and he’ll actually succeed! Unfortunately, he’ll burn down the Reichstag…the actual Reichstag, not the US capital, but the present-day German parliament building.
Yep. All of this talk about the makeup of Congress, and having an opposition party becomes moot when you hand power to fascists.
I’m past the point of caring, let the bread and circus commence. The American public, it seems, must learn shit the hard way.
Well. The chips are down. Your move Generals.
For what it’s worth I think there’s going to be a ton of pushback. To the point where using the military for this becomes infeasible.
I suspect the powers that be will let this orange chucklefuck have a little fun but if he really starts eating into their profits and refuses to back off, he’s going to have an accident.
Yeah, his plans are going to destroy the economy, and I’m pretty sure our corporate overlords won’t like that.
They’ll love it. They’ll buy our country up for pennies on the dollar.
Right, but what’s the point if they’re not making profit?
Profit is not a concept that corresponds to feudalism.
You know what amazes me? That any vaguely brown person who voted for Trump didn’t seem to think that even if they are literally carrying their papers at all times and easily able to prove their citizenship, they are gonna be harassed constantly for the next four years. With hopeful some state exceptions, they are going to have to be very careful to speak only 'Murican in public and suppress public display of non-American cultures. They are literally going to be having to watch their backs every day.
WTF.
I imagine the population of New Mexico is going to swell quite a bit in the next four years.
Hope everyone in the military is going to be ready because this psycho is going to be calling on you…to do every little thing he wants.
Need to shut down those protesting against him? Better be there.
Need to start beating down people who voted against him? Better be there.
Nothing you’ll do will be for the sake of this country’s entire interests, it’ll be for his interests.
The military has a uniform code of justice they have to follow. Police have qualified immunity, but still sometimes get arrested. Prison riot control have no regulations on behavior or identification. Look for that group to become the main go to for anything that ‘needs taking care of’.
Look for that group to become the main go to for anything that ‘needs taking care of’.
Or just Proud Boys and other paramilitary thugs.
That’s why I’m hoping the military does its job and protects the country and constitution from him.
Well if he has his way, he’s going to be able to remove general at will
Bracing for “Wait, I didn’t think you meant me?!?!?”
“Cool, a leopard! Can I pet it?”
[Scene opens on a wide, desolate savanna at dusk. The camera slowly pans over a leopard lying under a tree, its large body barely able to move. The sun is setting, casting a cold, dim light over the scene. Soft wind rustles through the dry grass. The leopard’s eyes are dull, its breathing labored.]
Narrator (soft, somber voice): In the wild, leopards are meant to stalk, to hunt, to climb. But for some, this is no longer possible. These are the leopards of the forgotten savanna… the ones who can no longer live the life they were born to lead.
[Cut to a close-up of another leopard, this one lying next to a watering hole, panting heavily. The camera lingers on its enormous, bloated body, its paws barely able to reach the ground. The leopard’s eyes seem vacant, devoid of the wild spark they once had.]
Narrator: Overfed and unable to move, these leopards have been left to a slow, painful existence. They can no longer hunt their prey, no longer climb the trees to escape danger, no longer feel the thrill of the chase. They are trapped in their own bodies.
[Cue the soft, mournful opening chords of “Angel” by Sarah McLachlan. The camera slowly pans over a third leopard, sluggishly trying to rise, but its massive weight prevents it from standing. It lets out a heavy sigh, its once-strong legs buckling beneath it.]
Narrator: They are the forgotten victims of a world that has abandoned them. Too fat to run, too weak to fight… These leopards are slowly fading, one breath at a time. They need your help.
[Cut to a shot of a leopard staring out over the savanna. The camera lingers on its face, eyes half-closed, its expression one of quiet resignation.]
Narrator: For just $3 a day, you can provide the care and support these leopards so desperately need. A donation will help give them the chance to live a life of dignity. Help them find their way back to the wild they were meant to roam.
[The music swells as the camera fades to black, and the words “Your donation can make a difference” appear in white text on the screen.]
Narrator (whispering): Please, don’t let them suffer in silence. The time to act is now.
[The music fades out, and the SPCA logo appears in the corner, along with a toll-free number and website for donations.]
“prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program.”
- Trump reposted Fitton’s comment Monday with the caption, “TRUE!!”
I don’t even know what to say. I’m gobsmacked to depression daily that you’re ok with this.
But Obama wore a tan suit!
Where were you when America was violated by the terrorist fist jab?
Also, I will never forget how Michelle Obama sullied this country with her bare arms…
Hey, the democratic party wasn’t close enough to the workers so there was no alternative…
But EGG PRICES! The economy!
And he’s such a strong leader…
(I am paraphrasing actual interviews our local networks did with college students)
I think those colleges need to stop charging tuition. Clearly, their education is worthless.
They need to take their phones away in class.
I hate to sound so salty and old, but jeez.
I think we need to start using strongman in conversation more for the people who don’t know what it means.
I’m afraid it would just bolster his image. Become a tiktok meme or something…
Every single bad thing about this country, from now on, will be prepended with “Biden”
It shall be law.
I’m not actually sure if I’m joking.
It was weird to watch donvict try to make that a thing in near real time, with “Bidenflation” and “Bigration” or some such shit. This stuff works on the clapping seals that make up his base, though.
As a Bi-man, a bigration sounds great! Would be great to have more bis around. Mono-sexuals are just weird, imo.
Obama? Thanks.
Males? Buttery.
Biden? Did that.
Right. Let’s not blame Trump or the electorate that put him in power.
How do we gum up the works?
You know the answer already, but I reckon you’ll be too much of a coward to do it.
Prove me wrong.
Fred Hampton spent more time building coalitions then he did calling his own cowardly.
Everything will be a national emergency to pass any and everything they want to.
Yep, so why don’t the Dems do the same things, but to actually benefit the average person?
I understand people are going to say, “Well, we have to respect decorum and the rule of law,” but… How’s that going for us? The GOP doesn’t care, and we keep pretending they’ll find the line they won’t cross to accomplish their evil agenda…
So why can’t the Dems break the rules to actually help the American people and show them they’re willing to get things done? This isn’t a “I gotcha” moment or praising the GOP, I just don’t understand it beyond “they’re the same party, one just pretends to care.”
They tried with student loan debt and the courts blocked them at every turn. The courts are shaped to allow republican plans, because we have done these things in the past. Courts are more willing to reject things that haven’t happened before.
Short answer: the Supreme Court
Longer answer: National emergencies are perfectly reasonable to the SCOTUS when declared by a Republican but ridiculous overreach when done by a Democrat and the SCOTUS will use any opportunity to neuter the power of the federal government where a Democrat is in charge.
“So why don’t they just try anyway?” you might ask. And the answer there is that the SCOTUS can do more than just say “you can’t do that one thing anymore.” They can use it as an excuse to block 100 other things that were either flying under the radar or were being challenged one-by-one previously and tied up in appeals.
Biden tried to regulate CO2 through the EPA. The Supreme Court not only said he couldn’t do that, but they concocted a brand new standard called the “Major Questions Doctrine” that basically says government agencies aren’t allowed to implement any significant new regulations unless Congress explicitly authorizes them. And now all those under-the-radar regulations are falling like dominoes in the district courts with no path for appeal.
The judiciary relies on the executive to enforce its rulings.
