US voters
If only Kamala had won, then the Biden administration wouldn’t be doing this
For the ones in the back: the presidential elections aren’t the only elections.
I voted for Jill Stein, don’t blame me
I voted for Jill Stein, don’t blame me
how did you not hand the US to amerikkkan oligarchy?
How to trigger an american?
Tell them you voted third party. Yes, the two party system is perfectly ok.
Do you have brain damage? Fucking nobody thinks the two party system is ok, we just aren’t delusional.
By voting for Jill Stein.
The left keeps voting for Democrats, and the country keeps getting more and more fascist. But sure, it’s the Green Party that’s the problem!
Please tell me this is a joke.
Nope, they were adamantly campaigning here the whole time.
Has to be.
…
Right?
Yeah, why would somebody with Arabic characters in their username vote for Jill Stein? Truly a mystery.
Why would I make assumptions about a person’s intelligence based on their race or cultural background?
Jill Stein opposed the genocide in Gaza which was supported by the Democrats and Republicans. As a result, she had support in many Arab-American communities. There were a lot of news stories about this, particularly towards the end of the election.
Sure thing.
The only real choice tbh.
Oof! Ha ha
PD: How do I ban people who post hard truths?
If only the American people weren’t addicted to republicans and democrats. This might not happen.
Our election system mathematically guarantees there will be only two useful choices. Any attempt to swap one of those out requires years of transition in which you are actively helping the side who agrees with you even less to win and move you further away from what you want.
Until we have more ubiquitous ranked-choice-esque systems, that will not change.
Step 1 is voting for people who want to change the system - and they do exist
Yes, but this has to be done in a more local level. Trying to force a new party into existence starting at the federal level is not planning for success
Exactly, from the bottom up. Local candidates are probably the only ones you have a real chance of meeting and engaging with more often.
if only American politics wasn’t so organically intertwined with billionaires…
Both are awful. There’s too many guns in this country.
Nah, CEOs dying is beautiful.
Defending CEOs is awful.
That’s a sick and disgusting attitude. Blocking you.
BOtH SiDeS
Too many guns, too many people willing to shoot those guns, not enough politicians prioritizing mental health
Too many CEOs, not enough universal healthcare. Guns are a red herring here.
One can be pro-gun and for regulation at the same time.
Disarm the violent, arm the nonviolent. For life.
If you so much as strike another person in anger, instantly banned for life.
Luigi was a non-violent person, he didn’t do what he did to watch a man’s head explode. He did what he had to do
He never had to kill anyone. He chose to murder someone.
Mental illness like forcing your employees back into the office when they did the job remotely just fine for two years
Gun was printed. Do you realize that there is no stopping 3D printed guns now?
I’ve been in the community for many years, reluctantly due to their right wing tendencies. People are making 50 cal sniper rifles, 38 mm grenade launchers, and fully automatic submachine guns.
My little AR pistol runs at 10 rounds per second. Legally
All at home.
The Glock used by Luigi is an old design. He just made the most reliable one (ignoring the silencer issues)
You know that the gun was printed right? You could ban all guns and you would never stop someone from making a homemade gun.
There are people in European countries where it’s completely illegal to even own ammunition, they are perfectly able to make fully automatic rifles.
I don’t say any of this as a bad thing btw
Unless there is a plan to strip violent people of firearms, I’m going to continue to make my own and train twice as much as they do.
ARM THE LEFT
Fine then all guns AND all ammunition should be gone.
Because all the dainty little devils are terrified
It pretty neatly fits the definition of (individual) terrorism (which doesn’t really exist). It was an act of violence, not based on personal grievance with the direct victim, but based on grievance with the system he represented. But, yeah, they probably wouldn’t ever pull that when someone gets murdered for racist reasons, which you could also classify as terrorism.
🎶 Because it’s about class and not about justice. 🎶
Seemed pretty personal to me. The ceo was directly responsible for years of painfor this man.
For what it’s worth, we do have hate crime laws that are supposed to be used in cases where racism is at play. I’m not saying it’s always used, but we do have additional penalties for it.
This is kinda the OG definition of terrorism actually. Back when 19th century anarchists invented this hot new direct action political tactic called terrorism. It was all the rage, for a while, but it backfired and increased public sympathy towards the bourgeoisie and the nobility.
Is everyone just now learning terrorism means political violence?
Then why doesnt the FBI consider people who blow up or set fire to abortion clinics terrorism?
They often do.
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/abortion-clinic-violence-terrorism
“While the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has maintained that these actions are not terrorism, this article suggests that there is a correspondence between incidents perpetrated between 1982 and 1987 and standards classifications of “limited political” or “subrevolutionary” terrorism. Perhaps the FBI has declined to accept the terrorism definition because of its preoccupation with international events which are seen in terms of administrative or jurisdictional definitions.”
That’s from 1988.
From 1977 to 1988, an epidemic of antiabortion violence took place in the United States, involving 110 cases of arson, firebombing, or bombing. The epidemic peaked in 1984, when there were 29 attacks. Nearly all sites (98%) were clinics that provided abortions. The FBI still says that those were not acts of terrorism.
well, you sure showed me what went on…40 years ago
You’re right. It’s not like history is important or anything. Silly me.
Not really proving the point you think you are.
Keep highlighting the issue.
What a shocking surprise. Why stop there? Why not charge him with genocide? Bring him to The Hague and charge him with war crimes?
Billionaires are reading this post and thoughtfully taking notes.
Wont be surprised if he ends up executed. Can only hope that people learn something from this
The death penalty is outlawed in New York, isn’t it? Not that he can’t have an “accident” or some shit in prison.
He won’t make it to trial. He’ll get the Epstein treatment.
I just saw that! At the time I was making my comment I thought, “or they add federal charges,” but I didn’t think it was going to happen. Shows how useless it is to outlaw the death penalty on the state level when the federal government can selectively apply the death penalty in state level cases.
Death penalty is aways available for those who attack capital in a capitalist state. Laws are just words when they are against true power
Who exactly is terrified here?
Shareholders.
Translation: majority shareholders
Translation: the obscenely wealthy that run the country
Billionaires want to be both political and non-political. They want to be the average person who “worked hard to get where they are without help” and they want to be the special upper class who deserves special protection when one of their own gets shot.
This is very close to them admitting that class warfare is real.
Unfortunately, the people doing it are the media It’s a quintessential “man bites dog” story. Normally it’s the insurance companies killing civilians. Everyone is going to cover it. The police had a manhunt because it would look ridiculous if they didn’t solve such a high-profile case.
It’s kind of a symbiotic relationship, the media covers it, the police react harshly, the media covers it more.
You know what looks even more ridiculous? Only taking action on anything when the victims are wealthy. Go read about how ridiculously lax NYC laws against crime are. But some rich dude gets shot and all of the sudden the cops are Columbo, and the court prosecutors are Matlock (yes I’m aware how old those references make me seem).
As a fellow old, I appreciate these nearly Paleolithic references for context.
One of my eyes fossilized just by reading this
They are terrified. He did terrorize their class. So maybe just maybe being a terrorist isn’t bad, it depends on who you terrorize?
funny how murikans are Super against gun violence all of a sudden when it happened to a rich white male… but not so much when its a class full of poor kids
Congratulations on the stupidest take in the entire comment section.
Seems like most Americans are pro Luigi, but the government isn’t
The government and their bosses
Do you actually have a point? Innocent children slain: bad. Evil leech that has a large part in oppressing us - maybe not so bad.
Do you really think the dude being white has anything to do with it? Pretty sure “CEO of health insurance company” is a sufficient descriptor and race has nothing to do with it
Spot on
The kids were already born, they don’t give a shit about them after that
The only difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is your point of view.
They want to make Luigi an example. “Don’t do what he did, he’s being quickly processed with terrorism added to the charges. You don’t wanna be a terrorist do you?”
The complete lack of understanding someone who is pushed into a corner and has nothing to lose. Someone who expects the worst anyway.
… and in other news: Insurance CEOs are some of the best human beings walking on this Earth! Just this morning, one of them gave $50 to a homeless person who lost everything paying a hospital bill. What a golden heart!
I misread that as golem heart.
It’s not that what Dylan Roof did wasn’t terrorism, it’s that he wasn’t in New York state. Same with that case involving Trump and property values, never would have been charged in Montana for that, everyone knows assessed value and real value are two different things.
Yeah, trying to upcharge this from murder to “terrorism” is going to backfire spectacularly in the prosecutor’s face.
Let’s hope. But as we all know truth is financially dictated in our “justice” system, so it is a gamble.
Who do we charge with terrorism for people being forced to watch their loved ones die from preventable causes that were denied treatment and cures by insurance companies? Asking for some revolutionaries I might or might not know.
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This is because the Government with Republicans and Neo Liberals are about business interests over the American people. People need to just start sharing their denials from United healthcare every time they right a piece how Luigi is evil. So tired of this bullshit. And here is another thought pro lifers need to start protesting for universal healthcare to be consistent.
False! Corporations are people in the eyes of the law, and the only “people” who matter to the institutions.
These charges are being brought up in a state controlled by Democrats.
They’ll make it illegal to share “sensitive information” like healthcare insurance denials, and they’ll punish you for releasing your own sensitive information.
And then they’ll go after anyone reposting it for violating your rights, they’ll charge them on your behalf regardless of whether you protest that you don’t want to charge them.
They’ll violate you in weird ways.