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    3 days ago

    Gen z better prep for 'em withdrawls… They love telling how they don’t drink or do drugs haha

    Let’s see how they will cope.

    Some app is about to explode

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      3 days ago

      Rednote started exploding 3 days ago, it’s been #1 on android and apple stores since.

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          No, it’ll probably take weeks to days; with the new law the president can unilaterally ban any foreign-owned app with 1 million users.

          Watch Biden ban it on Jan 19th as a final fuck you.

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          Honestly it’s probably more likely that China bans the US users first. RedNote is openly CCP incorporated and has very strict community rules and heavy censorship. Cleavage is censored, I was cracking up because people’s profile pics got denied and they couldn’t understand the Mandarin to know why.

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    Ok.

    (I bet tiktok doesn’t shut down, but if it does I can’t wait for my kids to tell me about all the meltdowns at middle school over tiktok shutting down. Too many parents let their kids have unfettered internet access. No, mine don’t have tiktok.)

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        No. They don’t.

        I installed the home LAN, set site restrictions, app restrictions, use parental controls on all their devices, use OpenDNS family shield, PiHole, and app installation controls on their devices.

        Even of they did find a way to see it I would see the IP address flagged.

        Sounds draconian, but social media is fucked up for kids. They can have access at 16. They have a shitload of other internet freedom, though. They’re good kids.

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          And all of their friends have the same firewalls when they go to hang out?

          Not trying to be rude but it seems kinda naive.

          My little sister is also not allowed on tiktok but she just uses it on her friend’s phones when they hang out.

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            Their web browsers are restricted off. They cannot install any apps. This discussion is about what my kids have on their devices, and telling me they might see it elsewhere is irrelevant.

            I don’t think you understand my knowledge level, you do me disservice by assuming I’m naive, and your rudeness is because of changing the conditions of the discussion to make yourself right by changing the parameters based on that invented naïveté.

            No, I can’t control what they see at their friend’s houses on someone else’s device. I saw the playboy channel at a friend’s house when I was a kid and I didn’t have cable at my house. That’s what kids do. I understand and accept this. I’m not a tyrant or control freak or clutching my pearls. That’s the part where you get to discuss good and bad about social media or any aspect of the internet with your kids, like a parent is supposed to do, and do your best to protect your kids’ mental and physical wellbeing within reason.

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              Ok I think this is a misunderstanding about what it means to “have tiktok”. If you mean in the context of your house sure.

              But I had this same conversation with my parents. There is no reasonable way to actually prevent a kid from having access to tiktok in some contexts. Parents who say their kids don’t use tiktok because it’s not allowed at home are just incorrect.

              My dad doesn’t get that when she hangs out with friends or goes to school, she IS seeing tiktok content.

              Seems like we actually agree here though.

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          Good. TikTok is pure fucking brainrot. People acting like it’s disappearance is some great tragedy make me laugh.

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    I’m honestly surprised more content creators on TikTok haven’t raised a stink about this from what I’ve seen. Agree with it or not, for some people this is their livelihood.

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      IIRC TikTok is rather top heavy in terms of income and this highest tier of influencers is diversified across all media channels anyway.

      Regular folk have better luck making money on YouTube and Instagram so TikTok creators are unusual bunch. In my experience (which is very likely shaped by the algorithm) they are a mix of talent show performers, odd personalities and no longer relevant one hit wonders that got lucky. They’re mostly sad about losing that space because it’s so different to alternatives. I don’t think anyone that doesn’t have much money feels in power anymore so what are they going to do?

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        Yeah, but those affiliate links made people bank, especially during the holidays.

        I actually got like half my ideas and my daughters from the tiktok shop. (Then went and bought it on Aliexpress)

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      Most content creators that I know have either openly stated that they prefer it shutting down because it’s such a royal pain in the ass to use TikTok since it’s audience is so different than their other platforms, or have said they stopped using it without showing a position, the only reason they used it in the first place is because that’s where the audience is but they would much prefer other alternatives

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    That would go beyond the ban’s requirement for app stores to stop offering downloads of the app, but not immediately halt use of it.

    Before the tankies get mad about the “censorship” of the US while failing to mention the LONG list of things you can get straight up arrested for in China

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      Or have a “tea drinking” session:

      When I was able to speak to Ms. Wu about the “tea drinking” session (euphemism for police harassment), she sharply conveyed her sense of vulnerability due to the lack of interest in her stepping away from her popular Twitter account, stating,

      Literally the only thing that was keeping me online for the past few years was they were worried it would make China look bad if they cracked down on me. Now that they know that I could be dead in a ditch tomorrow and no one would give a shit or say a word I’m 1000x less safe here.

      […]

      Wu added,

      After years of doing this without anyone saying anything, on June 30th, out of the blue, they send plainclothes thugs to my house. Surprise! They were real cops.

      Why? because she’s LGBTQ+, has a Uyghur partner, and has some friends in Western nations.

      reference: https://www.hackingbutlegal.com/p/naomi-wu-and-the-silence-that-speaks-volumes

      https://x.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1177145458503737344

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    I wonder if they’ll sell or go down in flames.

    If they sell, it’ll just become overly moderated like Facebook.

    If they go down in flames, a bunch of overnight competitors will compete to succeed.

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      Did you see the post made by Zucker? They’re going to stop moderating posts, especially those made from, Right wing motherfuckers

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        They can moderate by boosting certain opinions and downranking others. It doesn’t need fact checkers because it’s platform owner interests and not facts that matter.

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        They’re going to stop moderating posts

        That just means they’ll favor the right wing content since it currently benefits them. They will continue to moderate and shadow hide whatever they don’t agree with or are paid to censor.

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      The US is a tiny market compared to the rest of users, why would they ever sell?

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        It’s their second highest market after Indonesia? They dragged this out as much as possible in congress and in court because its valuable to them.

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          It’s valuable, it’s not as valuable as the entire rest of the world combined. The US simply doesn’t have the user share to demand the service be sold off.

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    Do it. Let the US be a closed censored state like it desperately wants to be.

    They’ll even put the hashtag #freespeach when they deliver their ban.

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      Free speech means the government will let citizens criticise them or communicate other political opinions without sanctions. It does not mean they can’t ban one channel of communication when they are worried foreign actors use it to take advantage of the citizens. There are plenty other channels through which the citizens can communicate their opinions.

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        It’s a .ml tankie, they only care because it’s a Chinese company, guaranteed if it was like a UK company or something they wouldn’t say a word about it lmao

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        “Worried foreign actors use it to take advantage if the citizens” you mean like Cambridge analytica and facebook? Yet all the government did to them is go after their competitors and give them more power. How strange.

        Yall are so thirsty for the boot because its currently stepping on the evil boogeyman our government has trained us to hate

        Especially now that trumps coming into power its shocking so much people on here are excited for the government to shut down an app. What makes yall think they wont target lemmy/mastadon/etc once theyre the apps being used show people the genocides being commited by the US and israel

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            Yeah which is just xenophobic and dumb and doesnt protect Americans. We need comprehensive data protection laws and transparent algorithms not laws that help monopolies gain even more power to manipulate us

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    There will just be a new (US based) TikTok copycat that springs up, or many. Banning one social media cancer doesn’t stop the others

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      This is all about pressuring Bytedance to sell to any of the large US companies dying to get that user base. Remember that one party is currently loaded with tech bros with no ethics.

      Bytedance seems willing to play chicken and hit the wall as a gamble about coming out of this less hurt than anyone else.

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      If that was the case people would be using Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts but they are just bad copies that don’t understand what features made TT popular. „The Algorithm” will be impossible to copy and that’s what kept people there.

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      Good! Hopefully one of those other apps is federated and free from any hostile interests.

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      I have my doubts that any app will collect the user base back together ever again. I may be wrong, but once TikTok is gone, people will splinter to different apps that are nowhere near as popular.

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      Yes but diversity is good 👍

      Why let the Chinese get all the eyeballs for propaganda? Surely we should give other nations a chance?

      IMHO they should shut down every app that is both popular and has an exceedingly difficult to penetrate monopoly. Let the competitors rush in and do a it again when the same situation occurs!