No, but thanks for asking. The rabbit hole still goes far further.

Ghostarchive is apparently blocked from The Atlantic, and other archive options aren’t friendly to VPNs, so I’m afraid I can’t provide an archive link.

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    The internet is growing more hostile to humans… TO READ THIS STORY, SIGN IN OR START A FREE TRIAL.

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        How anyone uses the web without NoScript baffles me, but people still use Chrome, too, so I don’t think I’m in the mainstream in terms of my internet use,

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          When that is the only browser that actually works for Jira, Confluence, and the like at work, then yes boo hoo we absolutely do! 😭

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              It’s probably our internal modifications, but Jira especially iirc is known to be quite “fragile”.

              Edit: ofc the main point here is that companies pay to test only on Chrome, then consider the matter settled, even while Firefox decides to strike out on its own in so many ways regardless. I have no choice but to use Chrome… or to find another job.

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    I WISH reddit would end. I used to love it for the batshit insane personal stuff people wouldn’t share anywhere else. “I haven’t pooped in a month, AMA”, that kind of dumb voyeuristic crap.

    It turns out that’s what everyone else loved too, and it’s profitable to have AIs write it so you can read it on YouTube for ad revenue. And y’all, it’s so stupid.

    The most bizarrely specific scenarios pop up again and again, and people eat it up every time. “AITA for not giving my evil infertile sister my baby?” “My parents promised my brother and evil SIL my house without consulting me, AITA?” “My evil MIL was female aka evil, AITA?”

    And then you have subreddits like BestOfRedditor updates, which you’d expect to curate these posts so the slop doesn’t come through, but in reality it’s a handful of power users obsessively following and reposting any post with “update” in the title or even just edits with the barest amount of self reflection. Posts have wild plotholes, like a 30yo being divorced for 15 years, and it’s considered “best of” as long as there’s an evil woman/autistic person/trans person, I guess.

    But no, this AI shit means it will never end, because it gets numbers, and numbers matter more than anything else.

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        So you’re the one who ended it. Wow.

        You’re gonna need to stay away from 6flags and the Georgia aquarium kthx.

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            It alr… oh uh you mean in the future yes that might just be possible sometime in the future yes… :-)

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            You can still pay to watch an AI enjoy the coaster if you stand in line for 2 hours.

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            You might not be that far off. I can’t think of a kid who is interested in going to six flags. A whole school was going to go for the day, for free. Only a handful expressed interest, the rest said no way they are standing in lines, in the sun, to take a 3 minute ride to nowhere.

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              If I’m going to stand in line in the sun for a three-minute ride, there damn better be some good skiing from the top of the lift.

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    I see a lot of hate in here and it’s not all unfounded but man there is still something to be said for talking about hot sauce with 200,000 strangers!

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      If the lemmy devs implemented AI I’d assume it would be controllable by the instance maintainers. Instances that dont want it should be able to disable it. If thats not an option I’m sure someone would fork it and remove all the AI stuff.

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      The moderator to user ratio on the fediverse is orders of magnitude higher than commercial platforms. Even Lemmy.world (a large, loosely moderated Lemmy instance) has again, orders of magnitude more eyes on its content than reddit.

      This means that even if a chatbot gets invented that is impossible to distinguish form a human, mods will more readily be able to tell if it is pushing a narrative/shilling products.

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    Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

    A Slowpoke with the logos of The Atlantic, saying "hey guys, did you know? Reddit is now full of AI slop.

    This process has been happening since ChatGPT was released. And it’ll only get worse.

    And when are those corporations get that people hate this sort of system? Ask Clippy.

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      One might argue that OpenAI was not the first domino, just the one that got the most attention. Clippy feels quaint. Remember when you bought shit once and that meant you owned it?

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        OpenAI was not the first domino, just the one that got the most attention.

        Yes, that is correct. And perhaps it got the most attention because of all the ruckus Pigboy did over “his” precious data (i.e. users’) + because it made the whole thing hard to ignore.

        Remember when you bought shit once and that meant you owned it?

        Yeah. I was talking about this with my mum today - the chat started with my cat refusing litterboxes, then “if this was the 90s old newspapers would do the trick”, then on how you don’t really own books you buy from the internet (unlike pirated ones). But it’s the same deal with some physical goods, if someone can brick them from a distance they aren’t really yours.

        [Sorry for the rambling.]

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      It happened long before chatgpt. Subredditsimulator was touted as a “fun game” at first but it was really a testing ground for bot devs. That goes back to like 2016, 6 years before chatgpt.

      Openai was established 2015 though, some of their team was probably already shitting up the internet by then

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    I don’t know if Reddit will end, however, it has become increasingly unusable. I just want tech news and light discussion of them, but I get so much more ‘extras’ I never signed up for.

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      I think we’re seeing the death of scale in social media. Ten years ago, the most heavily trafficked subreddits were where you wanted to be. Now, I’m only in niche communities that have yet to be replicated in the Fediverse. Unless you unsubscribe from anything remotely popular, Reddit has been a firehose of bullshit for several years.

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        Even in some niche things, it seems like people have lost their minds. I like AI and predicting future science and world developments, but honestly, there is not one subreddit where people can just calmly discuss stuff and share news about it all without being just… strange. I want to read commentary like this https://darioamodei.com/machines-of-loving-grace not “You stupid moron xyz I am right, so much superior is my opinion” or “bow your heads to great technosingularity that will fix my shitty life”, “the DOOM is coming”. I want a platform where there is something worthwhile to read.

        I don’t expect everyone to write essays under the news, but nobody is even trying to compose something interesting— some kind of thoughts they have— that maybe they want to share with us. It’s mostly just karma popularity contest everywhere, and that’s tiresome on the eyes.

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          For the most part, r/futurology is pretty tightly modded. I’m also in r/energy, which seems to be more of a self-policing affair; bullshit is immediately called out and downvoted.

          But essentially, Reddit ceased being the front page of the internet years ago, and now it’s where I go after I’ve read all my RSS feeds, Beehaw, The Guardian and NPR. Looks like we might be losing that last one.

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      I would probably sooner (insert any obscene idiom here) than use the official reddit app, but your work is still commendable.

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      I got perma banned from reddit because i used fuck spez. I can’t even make new account with new email id. It’ll be banned within 24hrs. So perma shifted to Lemmy.

      Again I’ll say it “fuck spez”