Are you fucking kidding me…

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    You’re right and you should say it. Progressives in America need to execute a takeover just like the Tea Party did on the right. Primary out every moderate Dem.

    You won’t win em all, but you’ll win enough to fundamentally change the direction of the party.

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      The biggest issue with that is that the Tea Party was an astroturf movement backed by Koch brothers. We already have enough big money in politics. And it would be more beneficial for everyone if the DNC simply dropped off the face of the earth and was replaced by a workers party.

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        Your don’t have to be the Tea Party in order to replicate their success.

        It might be better if you got some glorious new socialist workers party that appeared out of nowhere, but Santa doesn’t have any of those in his sack right now. Work with what you have.

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          What we have is 2 corporate owned parties that will do everything in their power to keep things the same. There is no reforming a corrupt system

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            What you have is rapidly encroaching fascism. What you need is any solution that gets you out of that.

            You’re not looking for ideal. You’re looking for workable. You’re going to have a lot more success pushing forward leftist candidates in a party that already has an established base of support than you are in trying to somehow build sufficient momentum for a viable third party in a country that has basically never had viable third parties.

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              No one that’s perceived as a threat to the current system will never be allowed any form of power within the system. Voting within the system rules is a setup for failure.

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                Cool, have fun twiddling your thumbs while you wait for the rapture - sorry, the revolution - and the world burns down around you.

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      We don’t have to talk about this as a nebulous concept, there are groups that work to run progressives everywhere and they are currently seeing a surge in interest. We can get to work today

      For instance, Run For Something supports progressives under 40 year-old both in primaries and general elections. They have had 26 thousand people sign up for them to run for local and state office since November alone. Jasmine Crockett came through the Run for Something pipeline, so this is not some hypothetical that doesn’t get results. They’ve gotten thousands of progressives elected at the local and state level, we can ramp that up. Consider running for state & local office yourself and encourage any progressive you know to run as well

      Groups like Indivisible are also putting pressure on both Republicans and Dems and starting to get some degrees of success. For instance, they have gotten senate Dems to start using unanimous consent to slow down senate nominees like Russel Vought and RFK (they held the floor for the maximum 30 hours too)

      You will always hear 10x more about the losses than the wins, but please know this is a fight we can win. There are people putting in the work and we can all join them