It’s blatant extortion now.

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    Thanks, now Canada can more easily commit to exporting its energy and resources to Asia and Europe.

    Canada will outlive Trump.

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      Yeah. Hopefully Canada can completely detach from the cancer that my home country has become. And same goes for everywhere else.

      For the greater good of the rest of the planet- everyone needs to cut ties with this festering disease of a “nation.” And I sincerely hope it happens.

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      Yeah, but it’s a big PITA. Gotta expand ports and have long lines at existing ports which means pollution and blight. Lots of benefit to having a sane trade partner within truck/train/pipeline range. Having to steer around a crazy grandpa means thinner margins and more risk.

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    STFU about this fucking petulant imperialist nonsense. 40 million insurgents is what this orange fuckface will get. US is not getting one fucking square CENTIMETRE of Canadian land. I used metric on purpose too. fuck the USA.

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      It’ll be more than that. There’ll be millions of Americans who won’t stand for it either. To think of it though, that might be the point. Something so heinous, yet legal (barely), that it legitimately compromises our security and forces martial law and a state of emergency he can exploit.

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        If he enforced martial law that’s within the US borders. I’ve never heard of a country being under martial law then invading another country but someone please enlighten me. He clearly wants to incite violence, I’m reading Stephen Marche’s The Next Civil War and Marche argues quite effectively that while he doesn’t know what the inciting event will be, the violence willl come from the right.

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            Of course I’ve heard about it, I’m not a historian so I don’t know all the details about how Germany went about it’s expansionist war other then the basic stuff . Did Hitler declare martial law and then invade Poland and Austria Hungary etc??

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              Hitler put the military on the border of chekoslovakia, made noises about protecting the German minority in the Sudetenland. British Prime minister negotiated the transfer of the Sudetendland from Chekoslovakia to Germany. All the fortifications the Checks military had built were in the Sudetenland. A few months later the Germans rolled in and took the rest of the country nearly unopposed. Germany signed a deal with Austria taking political control there, then they made a deal splitting Poland with the USSR. The Poles saw what happened to the Checks and resolved to fight it out reminding Britain and France that they have a defence pact but they didn’t know about the deal the Germans had with the Soviets, so Poland got invaded on both sides.

              Britain and France declared war but they needed time to get their militaries rolling. Germany brought the army over to the French border, then the Germans invaded the Netherlands and Belgium. Went around the French defences and took Paris. Britain got their people out of France at Dunkirk. Germany bombed Britain but didn’t have the navy to invade so they turned around again and attacked the USSR, and that’s where it started going to shit for them.

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                You missed 3 events. The fucking POS Hitler threw the entire German army into Poland leaving a token force to protect the western border and the French could have easily marched into Berlin. In addition, the French and British completely failed to help Poland. If you read the Polish campaign after action reports, from the German field commanders, they revealed severe deficiencies and recommended halting all offensive operations until 1943 to make the improvements. All of it was ignored, the best Wehrmacht generals were sent to desk duty and only the yes officers were given command. Sounds familiar? The perfect recipe for losing.

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                JFC I guess that’s what Turnip is gearing up to do. He already declared a bullshit national emergency at the border with Canada. Which was complete verifiable bullshit.

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      Vermont could apply to join Quebec. If they can commit to learn some French. I’m wed get along very fine.

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        Can we do a territory with limited autonomy? That way we can’t infect your politics.

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      Americans are some of the most politically divided people on the planet in a country that’s basically a few corporations in a trenchcoat with limited to no social safety nets and crumbling infrastructure.

      Why on earth would Canada want that? America may be the richest nation on earth but you don’t see that when you drive down an ordinary American street. All that money is sitting in the coffers of a handful of billionaires and corporations.

      Hard pass.

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    I honestly hope this just fuels our country to find other, better, trade partners and to also bring in free trade between provinces.

    He says the US doesn’t need Canada, we should do the same.

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      He says the US doesn’t need Canada but also wants to annex it.

      The US absolutely does need Canada’s natural resources. The Canadian people and its sovereignty stand between him / America and that golden goose.

      If you recall the colonial era, when a stronger nation wants the resources of a weaker nation, it generally does not go well for the weaker nation.

      Canada needs to accelerate the process of partnering with other nations now. It is never going to win a trade war against the US alone. Reciprocal tariffs are not going to cut it. Time to diversify the customer base and then tell the Americans to pound sand when they inevitably come knocking.

      Canada is already the only G7 nation that has a free trade agreement with all other G7 nations.

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    In case people don’t realize. Canada shares an Arctic border with Russia and Russia is trying to take Canadian land and regularly crosses into our waters to steal resources. It is of benefit to Putin for Canada to be weak and distracted by Trump, since Trump works for Putin, it’s very clear why he’s doing this

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    Embargo time, baby. Let’s clear that trade deficit right up for ya, bud. Time to outlast.

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    To all Canadians, us sane Americans would rather you prefer as you are. This is a concrete example of a “president” that just thinks the way to “lead” is by writing as many executive orders as possible and pressuring other countries to meet ridiculous demands by initiating trade wars and threatening them.

    A complete bully.

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      He’s not a bully.

      He’s a fascist.

      You guys need to get serious about saying, that real fast.

      America has a fascist government, and Americans need to figure out how to do something about that.

      It took Hitler less than a hundred days to go from elected to dictator. And from there it took less than four years to invade Poland and start WW2.

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        Fascism is nothing more than the bully mentality writ large. He is a bully but a bully is no trivial thing. They’re the absolute scum of humanity.

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      I know that many Americans don’t like this either. But Canada is unable to defend itself against the US military without serious help. And I don’t completely trust that a US population that couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump would take any action to stop him if he were to give the order to invade.

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        They aren’t fighting to save their own democracy. They won’t fight to save ours.

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        There’s no way he would invade with military force. It would not only be political suicide, it would collapse NATO and likely the Western world as unified entity. With Russia’s aggression and China’s ascension, the stakes are way to high for a potentially catastrophic move like that.

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        Canada could never defend itself from the US military. Never. Canada could only do asymmetrical warfare and insurgency. But it would also never end. So the US would have to kill all 41 million of us to put a stop to us going FLQ 2 electric boogaloo on them until the end of time. Also we would poison pill all our resources as well. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours, neither can the fucking USA. Scorched earth.

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    To our Canadian friends, I’m really sorry about all this nonsense. I love Canada just the way it is. Can’t wait for my next trip up to Toronto or Montreal. Always a good time. I’m a little worried that I might not get a warm welcome on the next trip though.

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      We hate your government and its supporters and those who couldn’t be bothered to vote and we won’t buy your shit anymore forever but you’ll be fine to visit as a tourist.

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    I think if this stupid bastard makes any kind of military moves, there will be an uprising. Invading a long-standing ally is ridiculous.

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      I got it in 2020, but I can’t imagine being in the military right now. We might attack an ally or we might commit a genocide. Neither of which I can support or accept as a lawful order.

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      Mango Mussolini is commander in chief of the us army. The army does what it is told. The US army won’t save Canada from the US army.

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    This is just a distraction to distract Americans, so they do not pay attention to all the things Krasnov Trump and Felon Musk are doing.

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      It’s hard to tell, but I think at least some of it is. The tariffs are meant to crash the economy so the rich can buy up land for cheap. Trump also wants martial law but seems to be struggling to invoke it without some kind of attack on the US.

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    I hope that people in the Pentagon remember that following illegal orders is a crime, too, and you cannot be forced to do so. Something established in Nürnberg when they took care of the Nazis.

    An order to attack Canada, Mexico, Greenland, or Panama would basically be such an illegal order.

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      I’m not sure it’s technically illegal, and I’m very doubtful that the current judiciary would find it so. But it is unconscionable. And insane.

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        It’s not technical illegal at all. Nothing he does is. The Supreme Court made him king.

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        If troops do illegal shit, the U.S. judicial system is one of several places they could possibly be held accountable.

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      Lol the Pentagon isn’t afraid to fake evidence to support an invasion. Remember the aluminium tubes? Remember yellow cake uranium? I remember.

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      This is not the first time the US has made up bullshit in order to attack a country: WMDs in Iraq, communism in Vietnam, Russia said there were nazis in Ukraine to justify that war. The military only needs a lie and then it’s not illegal anymore. The lies are already circulating. “canada is communist” “canada hurts the US”

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      He has the memory of a cod and the backbone of a slug, this is all bluster and he’ll cave the moment anyone he knows tells him otherwise.

      Strongman my ass

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      When have illegal wars ever stopped the Americans?

      I’m sorry but let’s not forget that Iraq was a thing.

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      … And you think the trump government cares about some German town (as trump would explain that)?

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    And there you have it. It was never about fentanyl. It was always about annexation (i should just call it as it is and call it invasion). And that’s why there was never anything that Canada could do to stop the tariffs.

    Not much i can do from across the ocean, except join in the boycott. But i’m boycotting anything American. Not just products of red states. I want to see America burn, and for Americans to lay the blame squarely on Trump, Elon, the Republican party and the 31% of Americans who are too stupid or racist to recognise a con.

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      Texan here. The boycott will help! The worse it is for America now, the better we’ll all be in the long run. Make Americans remember that we’re part of a global community.

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        54% of Americans read at below a 6th grade level and half do not have a passport. They are fed propaganda from a young age to believe that their nation is the absolute best and with such poor literacy it’s doubtful that they ever question it.

        Teaching Americans that they’re part of a global community is an uphill battle. The populace has been in a state of being dumbed down to the point of accepting someone like Trump for several decades now.

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          They are both dumb and proud of their ignorance as well. Which makes Americans even more nauseating.