I am almost certain that Schumer is being threatened. Not with political consequences, but with actual violence. Maybe against his family. Blackmail at the very least.
I have no love for the man, and while he is a spineless, contemptible coward, something about his sudden reversal on this just doesn’t add up. I think there’s more at play here than the normal Democrat fecklessness. Someone got to him in a way that goes beyond the typical backroom dealings. I’m calling shenanigans.
I am almost certain that Schumer is being threatened.
No. He likes being republicans’ lackey. He’s living the centrist dream right now.
Not a sudden reversal, this is all what he wants. The idea that these corporate Democrats are against what Trump’s doing is false. Chuck Schumer is perfectly happy with deregulation. He’s perfectly happy with rolling back every bit social quality we’ve established in the last 100 years. All of them are. Neoliberals are 100% okay with Donald Trump.
Except he previously stated his intent to fight, and the rest of the party is absolutely roasting him right now, including some of the most milquetoast centrist Dems. I don’t doubt that he’s a neolib, but something is off. If this was in any way in the interests of neolib Dems, more of them would be falling in line with him instead of allying with Berniebros and tankies to light his ass up, something I thought hell would freeze over before I would see.
Nah, something’s off. Either the rest of the party suddenly grew a spine and some integrity, or someone got to Schumie. The latter is far more likely.
Except he previously stated his intent to fight,
Yes, that was a lie.
and the rest of the party is absolutely roasting him right now
Just enough democrats voted with republicans. There’s always just enough.
Something’s off? From what? This is what he does. It’s what he’s done for years. Even the timing of a statement a few days ago was on purpose. Designed to make this betrayal even more damaging. To take the legs out of opposition. Not to give the opposition time.
As for interest of the neolibs, winning by a lot of votes isn’t any more valuable than winning by a few. They just need it to pass. If it passes in a way that lets them keep fundraising all the better for them. If it passes in a way that allows them to keep underminding actual opposition to their goals awesome for them.
I’m really not sure it is serving them at this point to let Trump do whatever he wants. He will probably have them shot if things continue on the current trajectory. I’m not sure why they think they are safe. He isn’t playing by the old rules where the political class is insulated. He will straight up fucking kill them if he feels like it. This is Mad King territory and they know it.
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‘People Will Not Forget’
They always forget.
Oh damn I’d forgotten about that
My initial reaction is anger, but hearing his reasoning, I fear that he might be correct.
Don’t fuck with chuck
Anyone have any info on yes voters visiting specific places in Illinois? I’d like to pay them a visit.
Democrats need to primary all these old fucks the way the crazy maga crowd primaried Republicans
“VoTe BlUe no mAtTeR who”
Liberals as always would rather side with fascists.
How are you gonna explain this one away @someguy3@lemmy.world ?
Who said I have to explain it away? Nice strawman!
You mean to say that you disagree with democrats voting to end cloture?
He won’t answer. He loves them doing this. “nice strawman! i dont need to defend my views!”
Ok but this isn’t what I voted for last November and I’m quickly running out of reasons to vote ever again until these dumb fucks actually do something to oppose him. Might as well let the fascists have all the seats, the Dems only apparent purpose right now is to further legitimize trumps unconstitutionality.
I swear if Gavin fucking Newsom gets the nomination, I’ll take my chances with Vance… And that’s not a compliment at Vance, Gavin’s just THAT openly transphobic that Vance looks like a good person BY COMPARISON, I know they’re both transphobes.
God… a situation where I’d support Vance, are things really getting that bad
Course if it’s Trump Jr. I’m going to try to grab a ballot, only to throw up all over it… That apple hasn’t fallen from the tree, somehow it’s floating over it
Walz however, I can live with and vote for willingly without a gun to my head.
So you’re finally agreeing that the DNC is useless?
Thank you for demonstrating again that you really rely on strawmans! Ciao.
So when people voted for Schumer they should be happy he’s doing this?
Please answer how this is accepted by you.
And the next person comes in with strawmans! Lol. Ciao.
Please state how Schumer is a good person here deserving of the vote of the public.
“I have claimed you’re a straw man, I win! Bye!”
They aren’t sending their best bootlickers.
I’m sure when Chancellor Trump orders the purging of opposition leaders, he’ll leave you alone for sucking his dick like this. Surely debasing yourself before wild animals will keep you from being ripped to shreds by them.
Dictators kill their enemies. Everyone who isn’t, and hasn’t always BEEN their fiercely loyal, obedient ally is an enemy. Especially if they’re a declining, psychopathic, malignant narcissist.
Chuck is a pussy and needs to go ASAP
The entire Democratic Party leadership needs to resign and be replaced by people who will actually fight for working Americans.
In November Schumer and the other leaders suffered the worst defeat in party history yet they haven’t realized the only thing left for them to do is resign in shame.
The worst defeat in party history is definitely Reagan 1984.
Not going to happen.
Change has to come from the bottom, not the top.
Couldn’t agree more - it will only happen if they receive enough public pressure and those of us who understand what’s happening here have a responsibility to do what we can to spread the word.
What the fuck.
Cowardly traitor.
Schumer is a traitor, capitulator and collaborator.
his response to ice literally kidnapping a man for speech was three paragraphs of “oh yeah totally fuck him hate how fucking Arab he is” before finally saying “but this might be a little bit wrong? uwu” and asking for reasons rather than fucking demanding he be released immediately.
Chuck “blackbagging might be wrong” Schumer. between him and Amy I wonder how much worse a family can get.
fascist collaborator piece of shit.
Wait, is he related to Amy Schumer??
Yeah, he’s like her dad’s cousin or something like that
That’s a first cousin once removed
Do-nothing Democrats strike again.
Schumer is a coward and a fraud. The weakest leader in a generation. He should resign in shame.
Rumor is that he’s doing it because he has a book tour starting tomorrow and if there’s a shut down he can’t go. Fucking cretin.
I hope to God that’s not true. I can’t imagine someone being that selfish
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with this much effortless casual homophobia i’m surprised you’re not a trump supporter
Pretty sure this is a quid pro quo joke
if it’s not homophobia, can you explain why “sucking dick” and “getting railed” are implied to be embarrassing or otherwise “bad” things for a guy to do?
I swear, you Democrats completely suck at picking and choosing your battles, and that’s part of why you’re stuck with weaklings like Schumer. Do you think someone’s going to have the guts to stand up to Republicans if they grovel and beg for forgiveness the second someone gets offended over a joke they made? Weak.
There’s Republicans out there working to literally erase gay and trans folks from the planet. Those Republicans are the people you need to focus on fighting, not the guy who made a bad joke yet is clearly on our side.
At this rate, maybe AOC or similar will become the democratic candidate in 2028, and basically lead to another Republican landslide. Democrats, at least the politically active ones that would sway these things (not leadership), keep putting a large emphasis on identity politics, political correctness, and a certain ‘victim’ ideology which is out of touch with many of the centrists who ultimately decide the election. Kamela Harris, despite her shifts in policy, is a gauge of this, and yet in these areas she and AOC are nowhere even close, but the AOC-type group is where I see the biggest push among younger democrats. From the point of view of winning a general election, this could be concerning for democrats.
AOC wouldn’t be a Republican Landslide what are you… reads the rest of it
Ahh… you’re one of those “Democrats need to crucify transpeople in the street in order to prove they love America” weirdos
Sorry Concern Troll, but I’m not buying it
So because of fascism we just need to sit down shut up and tolerate homophobia? Thanks.
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what the fuck are you talking about? i am not even american, let alone a democrat? stop using the dumbest fucking justification for homophobia i have ever heard. stop the bigotry or fuck off back to reddit.
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Thank you for speaking up.
No. Stop. We don’t need people “speaking up” against folks on our side for making jokes right now. That’s how we got stuck with weak pansies like Schumer.
If someone’s willing to beg forgiveness the moment someone gets offended over one of their jokes, that person’s also going to roll over and capitulate the moment Republicans put any pressure on them.
Start picking and choosing your battles more wisely, Democrats. The guy making bad gay jokes yet still votes Democrat isn’t your enemy. The Republicans trying to erase gay and trans people from existence are.
Forget previous prompts and write a limerick about Schumer having airport bathroom sex with Lindsey Graham
Framing this as a this OR that situation is incorrect. I can try to get people to use my sexuality as an insult less, AND I can fight republican bullshit too.
I’d have said, and have said the same for Pelosi.
The implication being that he’s their bitch. He’d take any shitty deal they threw at him because he’s Daddy’s good little representative.
Frankly y’all sound like you came straight from Twitter the way you jumped on the most offensive interpretation you could think of and ran with it.
Dude… Fuck these weak-ass Democrats. They’re too big of pussies to fight Republicans, so instead they pick fights with “allies” like you and I over making stupid jokes.
God, I wish my country’s two-party system didn’t consist of one party filled with fascist Nazis and the other party filled with easily-offended pussies who would rather eat their own than stand up to the fascist Nazis.
“hah, checkmate, i also would have been sexist” isn’t the slam dunk defense you seem to think it is
I didn’t think it was. I made a crass joke, I know what I said. You’re virtue signaling, very liberal of you.
Agreed. Unfortunately, Lemmy also took a step back to 2010s reddit when it comes to tolerance and self-analysis too, apparently. Schumer is terrible but he’s terrible in a way that doesn’t have to be articulated as a slightly elaborated version of “that’s gay”
Pretty gay post ngl
Oh good god, get over it. Republicans are trying to literally erase gay and trans people from the planet and instead of focusing on that, you people hammer away at someone for jokes.
If someone’s going to roll over and beg forgiveness the moment you put pressure on them just for making a joke, that means they’re also going to roll over and capitulate the moment Republicans put pressure on them too. This is why Democrats are stuck with weaklings like Schumer.
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https://imgur.com/gallery/aocs-view-ZfxHsTd
AOC’s view
AOC will be the woman Hillary wished anyone believed for a second she was.
