Summary

Five Republican Minnesota state senators plan to introduce a bill classifying “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (TDS) as a mental illness, defining it as “acute paranoia” about Trump’s presidency.

The bill argues TDS causes hysteria, verbal hostility, and aggression toward Trump supporters.

Critics argue this represents a dangerous politicization of mental health diagnoses that could suppress political expression.

The bill will be read Monday before the Minnesota Senate Health and Human Services Committee, where Democrats hold a narrow majority.

  • RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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    Just out of curiosity, do you want to hold the trials after the shit burns down in Nuremberg like the last ones, or do you want to do that somewhere in the US?

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    And I’ll fucking wear that diagnosis with pride. Fuck them all, he’s factually terrible.

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    Obviously, this horrendous and fascist (par for the course). I think there is also a subtle insidious layer to this that would imply stripping all dissidents of their gun rights, therein stifling rebellion.

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    Never, ever forgive magats for bringing this to our country. Don’t let them squirm out of it or try to play dumb, this is exactly what they wanted. Trump is the symptom and they are the disease

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      As an outsider from Canada … I also blame all those idiot Americans who just stand on the sidelines and watch the country burn down and hope that by doing nothing, no one will ever do anything to them.

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        Yeah, the non voters also make me quite pissed off as well. I basically hate everyone in this country other than Harris voters. Sorry our country is full of garbage and treating your great country this way, I’ve cussed anyone out hard that I’ve heard supporting it if it’s any consolation

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          I’m sorry to read that you’ve been having suicidal thoughts about society. I hope you find a way to recover soon.

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            And you used an argument earlier that is commonly used by neo-nazis to try to justify that the mass murder of Soviet POWs was… the USSR’s fault. But no, I am a troll for trying to refute such nonsense.

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        Most of us just don’t know what we can actually do and are being gaslit by everyone around us that it’s not as bad as the media is making it sound.

        So if you do something you are being irrational and the things you can do without being thrown in jail have no results currently (and are being done to no avail). If you don’t do something you know it’s going to get worse. And then the worse thing you know that’s coming requires really serious counter measures.

        Which if you act on timely you will be seen as over reactionary - and the problem. And then everything worse that comes after that will be seen as an appropriate response to the “radical violent and lunatic left”

        Most of us in my lefty group are just starting to stockpile food and water. Either it’s full market crash or worse. So. Have the essentials on hand and a method to protect them. Fingers crossed it won’t get to that. But. It probably will.

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            Joey badass said it years ago - have to be careful now.

            “With all of the conflict of propaganda, I believe they are simply tryna slander
            Start a Civil War within the USA amongst black and white and those alike
            They are simply pushin’ us to our limit so that we can all get together and get with it
            They want us to rebel, so that it makes easier for them to kill us and put us in jails Alton Sterlings are happenin’ every day in this country and around the world
            The scary part, boys and girls
            Is most of these stories don’t make it to the news and reach mass consciousness It is for sure time that we as a people stand up for acknowledgement
            And accomplishment of what we call human rights
            [It is time to rebel, better yet, raise hell
            I just want everyone to be cautious about how they go about it
            Because this is all part of the government’s plan and what they been plottin’ They’re literally beggin’ for this to happen, so they can kill us off
            Usin’ uprisin’ and rebellion as the excuse in a timely fashion The cancerous foods, the chemical warfare, economic sufferin’ is not workin’ fast enough
            There are many steps ahead of us and manifestin’ the future that they want
            We have to work together, not only rattlin’ them on a physical plane
            But to outsmart them on an intellectual mental level the same

            Justice won’t be served by a hashtag, and that’s the very reason I ask that
            What are we to do? We’re scattered around
            With no clue of this ugly truth
            All we know is who they ridiculed and who gets minisculed
            Time to wake the fuck up and do our own research
            And not form opinions based on just what we’ve heard
            Ameri-K-K-K-a is force feedin’ you lies down your throats with a silver spoon
            And eventually, we’ll all be doomed
            Real, real, real soon

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              You’re putting words in my mouth, I didn’t say anything about rebellion or anything like that.

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      The end game is that every one of the MAGAts will have to go through a period of removal from society and reintegration only when they’ve been deprogrammed.

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    It’s the other way around.

    The mental illness is not “paranoia about Trump’s doings”, paranoia about Trump is normal when you’re a decent human being who is thinking clearly and fact-based, because then you should absolutely be paranoid about an unhinged, mentally unstable, dangerous fascist taking power in the US. If that doesn’t bother you, I’m sorry, but you’re probably simply uneducated. See old Nazi Germany for “prior art” on this one.

    What could be considered a “mental illness” is what causes people to believe or support Trump, or the current Republicans, or the MAGA movement, or the current right-wing extremism in general. This is likely an issue of either low education, low intelligence or naive belief in various forms of internet propaganda. Or multiple of those issues combined. So it’s not really “illness” but rather a misinformed and/or radicalized person. Similar to what cultists become in real cults. Fascism is very cult-like in general. There’s usually a supreme leader and a doctrine (usually based on falsehoods) to live by, and everyone who doesn’t do that is considered an “enemy” or at least inferior. What you read on the internet and especially social media or “alternative news sites” is already often weaponized and might be able to radicalize you or lead you away from the fact-based truth. There’s TONS of disinformation, sometimes harmless, sometimes funny, but sometimes not. Sometimes it’s dangerous, especially if you’re not able to spot what’s likely true or not. If you aren’t able to filter out disinformation, propaganda, lies, half-truths, weird memes, i.e. if you are unable to stick to reputable sources, peer-reviewed science, and so on, then you WILL fall for at least some amounts of misinformation and you MIGHT even become part of a cult (e.g. MAGA movement, conspiracy believers, anti-vaxxers, QAnon, radical right-wing extremism, …). And again, it’s all weaponized and that is useful for various involved parties for various reasons. For example, Putin wants misinformation on social media because with it he can destabilize Western democracies, because common citizens fall for this stuff and lose faith in their own governments. The end result helps Russia, because Western democracies will then do less and be less united against Russian attacks. Billionaires like Musk or Zuckerberg want misinformation on social media because with it they can better control the narrative and extract more money from the users because polarizing and extreme content gives them more interactions and thus money. Billionaires also want less governmental regulation, which is why Musk already demolished several regulating bodies in the US. Autocratic fascists like Trump also want misinformation on social media because with it they can control the narrative better. What these involved parties all don’t want is the actual truth, so they are usually anti-science, anti-education, anti independent journalism, and so on. It’s better for them if the common people are uneducated and uninformed, and follow the newly created doctrine. It’s easy to tell that they want to create their own fake version of the truth, and control the narrative in that way.

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    In first reading the title I was wondering if the bill was talking about people blindly following Trump.

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      Same - instead sounds like they want to classify dissenters as mentally unwell so they can be locked-away or deported like the rest.

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        Not just locked away, they want to torture them in mental institutions and fry their brains with psychiatric meds. Just like in Morther Russia.

        Don’t assume this is a joke.

        They are constantly probing, and will keep trying to expand their power until they are stopped.

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    The senators who proposed this should be removed from office. This is beyond a farce.

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      And what Trump is doing it not? The only laws that still exist, is the ones that repress people they don’t like.

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    It’s a social construct. Much of the population wont understand due to lacking education and deficient knowledge base. Hopefully there will be further explanations for laymen in the future DSM5.