U.S. officials said in court filings on Sunday that they were not obligated to help a Maryland resident get out of prison in El Salvador after he was erroneously deported, despite a Supreme Court ruling directing the government to “facilitate” his return to the United States.

Attorneys for the administration of President Donald Trump said the high court’s order to “facilitate” the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia meant they should “remove any domestic obstacles that would otherwise impede the alien’s ability to return here,” not help extract him from El Salvador.

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      What, so he can come back like Napoleon? Nah. We’re going to build a jail in space and put him in space jail.

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    i don’t understand how every single american isn’t gathering up torches and pitchforks. why aren’t we doing that? is it because we’re scared? do we think we’re powerless as a collective? we’re not. do we think we’re individually alone? we’re not! all we have to do is say it together and the rest will begin to fall into place.

    say it with me, “guns”.

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        The country is 1 missed paycheck from homelessness.

        If we take the pitchforks out tomorrow we won’t have money to buy dinner.

        Eventually weqlth inequality will make it impossible to work for a living and people will take to the streets pretty fast.

        Notice how during Covid there were mass riots and civil unrest basicslly the moment people didn’t have to go to work.

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    This administration is evil. You should not need to be compelled to return an innocent man that you acknowledge was wrongly sent to your El Salvadorian gulag, you should want to. He committed no crimes and was living here in the United States legally. Any decent person, any sane administrator, would want to correct this mistake.

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      I don’t think he’s a citizen. Just a legal immigrant.

      And actually from El Salvador, so it’s his own government that’s refusing to return him to America.

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        A legal immigrant, a documented immigrant. Going through the legal process of becoming a citizen. Deported during the process despite following the rules. Sent to a fucking slave prison without a trial or hearing.

        Absolutely disgusting.

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        Be that as it may, a man who is convicted of no crime, who has not even seen the inside of a courtroom, has been declared a terrorist and summarily sentenced to an indefinite prison term because of us, and Trump considers it a great success. This is the moment that all doubt is removed that we’re in a dictatorship.

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          It’s actually worse than that this person committed no crimes saw no trial has been kidnapped, stripped up their human rights, and sent to another country to be held and used as forced labor for the rest of their life.

          This person literally just got slave traded.

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    The Supreme Court says you’re required to! But even if you’re not required to, you shouldn’t have to be required to, you should do the right thing because it’s the right thing. Any decent president would be beside himself with guilt for sending someone to megaprison who shouldn’t be there

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      All these court orders don’t mean a thing, I piss on them, the courts have less honor than a goat. The courts are unwilling and/or unable to enforce their orders, and until they are willing or able, it’s just a show that’s wasting everyone’s time. The Trump administration is sending people to life in prison without a trial, without even charging folks with a crime, and the judges are standing on the side saying “but you can’t do that!” Well, guess what happy cappy, they’re doing it! So what now?

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      The SC was complicit when they chose the word “facilitate” instead of giving measurable tasks.

      make (an action or process) easy or easier.

      That’s so fucking little a requirement, it’s effectively not one. How no one saw this I don’t know.

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          All they had to do (as an example) is tell someone, somewhere, that only one form of ID is enough to let him back into the country—if he happens to show up there—to be compliant.

          Anything along these lines is “following the court order” to facilitate his return.

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        That’s the problem, SCOTUS saw it and specifically reduced it from effectuate down to facilitate.

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        Well, in the end they can’t force another country to return someone, even if they wrote it in plain English. There is only so much that can actually be done. I’d be surprised if The World’s Coolest Dictator^TM was that opposed to returning the person, if alive, though.

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      Their runaround is stupid. “Well it said we only need to FACILITATE, and he’s in Salvadorian custody, so all we can do is ASK them. Since Bukele doesn’t WANT to, we can’t really do much else, we’re just some backwater little regional power compared to the mighty El Salvador.”

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      America will always do the right thing.

      After they’ve tried literally everything else.

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    He’s dead isn’t he? That or they’re afraid of what he’ll say about those inhumane gulags that Bucale built when he suspended civil liberties and tossed anyone who looked at him sideways into prison and called them gang members.

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      I don’t think either of those are necessarily true. It’s quite likely IMO that the Trump regime just likes the precedent… If they get away with this, it means they can deport and imprison anyone “by mistake” and then claim oopsie daisy, there’s nothing we can do about it.

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        That’s exactly what this is. It’s a trial run at disappearing innocent people to see what they can get away with.

        This should terrify everyone.

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    Republican voters just shoving their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes, pretending this isn’t happening

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        Ever since Trump got elected, we keep hearing a lot about South American prisons…

        I’m pretty convinced they’re warming us up to concentration camps.

        Guantanamo Bay was just expanded from fewer than 1000 cells to 30.000 cells.

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            We’ll see what happens when their weakest start dying by the scores because Medicaid and social security are gone. If that and the concentration camps won’t do it, what will? For now it looks like they might become a subdued peasant folk like the Russians. Their protests and political actions won’t do anything because there is no-one listening to it, and more extreme opinions are nipped in the bud by aggressive censorship on all types of media.

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      Are you kidding? They’re cheering this on. To them, this legal, documented and law-abiding man from El Salvador was part of a Argentinian gang sleeper cell. They’re frothing at the mouth to send anyone who looks slightly Latino to a slave prison without due process. They consider this the greatest victory the USA has ever had. Finally they can be free from the tyranny of hearing “Spanish” in the USA.

      You wouldn’t shut out your dream-come true right? These trump supporters have been convinced that there is literally an organized paramilitary invasion of the US happening at the southern border. They think anyone who might have come over that line is an enemy combatant seeking nothing but destruction of America.

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      The ones who voted for the people doing repeated nazi signals? Who voted for the guy who told people chanting “Jews will not replace us” with torches, to “stand by”? The voters who voted for the guy who became political by claiming he had proof President Obama faked his birth certificate and was actual a Kenyan Muslim manchurian candidate? You mean, those voters?

      They are pretending this isnt happening?

      No. They are simply silent because they are way too occupied masturbating to these developments to vocalize their specific support online or wherever, at least until they finish.

      Jokes aside, its likely they learned from Nazi supporters in the 1940s that they should remain quiet, so they can feign ignorance later.

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        They also are avoiding all talk about it in their echo chambers. I went into r/conservative to see what they were saying about this, and there is not one post that I could find about it. There’s a ton of other things they are talking about, mostly tariffs since those affect the money people make/spend, but nothing about this case. It’s almost like they are intentionally not talking about it…

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      Talk about easy campaigning.

      "Your constituent hasn’t stood up for for an innocent man who was wrongly deported to a mega prison.

      Do you think they’d stand up for you?"

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        You kind of just highlighted the problem. Until the thing happens to them, they think it won’t. As long as that’s true, most of them are lost causes.

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        “It won’t happen to me. I’m the right color/race/Party/occupation/etc. it will only happen to the ‘bad’ people.”

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      Nah, they just think you have to break some eggs to make an omelette. But, the least you could do is clean up the mess you make.

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      My money is on this too. How card could it realisticly be to ring them up and have them send somebody back.

      Someone is obviously stalling.

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    Lets kidnap Trump, send him to this same prison and pretend the same thing. Oh, then it would suddenly be different somehow. These absolute fucking bozos deported him erroneously and they have the audacity to open their filthy mouths with an excuse “we don’t have to return him”. WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK?!

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      the funny thing is, we could argue to the supreme court that there’s precedent and therefore legal. then we could codify in law that this is obviously illegal, but trump can stay there because he was sent before the law

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      Send Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. They’re not white, so the Republicans won’t bat an eyelid at them being sent.

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      You know, we don’t do due process anymore. That could be interesting.

      Edit: it’s not kidnapping anymore, just sending folks. I bet the orange guy can’t immediately present his proof that he can be in the states. If only cops weren’t such cowards, any of them could do things.

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      If you kidnap Trump, JD Vanice becomes president and declares war on ElSelvador for abducting Trump.

      Or perhaps does nothing and enjoy presidency who knows

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    Headline should only read “trump administration commits contempt of court and perjury.”

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      that was 2016. and it’s been awhile in the making.

      just a few of the highlights: 60s-70s goldwater/nixon and the southern strategy… the 80s reaganomics, deregulation, abolishment of fairness doctrine… the 90s newt & co, the rise of far-right media… 2000 scotus stopping the count and picking the ‘winner’… 2010 citizens united.

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        I can’t agree with you on the fairness doctrine specifically; first it only applied to over-the-air broadcasting, (so ABC, NBC, etc.) but not cable or the Internet. Secondly it was largely interpreted by these networks as forcing fringe views into the main stream. So they would have a faith healer on at the same time as a doctor, or a creationist on at the same time as a paleontologist. There are those who feel that this led directly to our current “my faith is as important as your reason” problem.

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          The problem with your theory is that with the removal of the Fairness Doctrine, the creationist and the faith healer weren’t deplatformed. Instead, they stopped needing to have a doctor or a paleontologist on the air to fact check them. That’s what led to “my faith being as important as your reason,” a bunch of far-right religious programming that no longer needed to host experts that would rightfully tear their ideas to shreds.

          Also there wasn’t any internet and broadcasting over the airwaves counted for most TV networks of the time.

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            There were 53 million households in the US with cable when the fairness doctrine was eliminated in 1987. Cable and the Internet are where and why the people we have been talking about weren’t deplatformed. The Internet has been around since the 60s. I think you might be confusing it with the World Wide Web which is a 90s thing.