Why is it so hard?

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    You think currency traders… take Bitcoin… and trade it for… Bitcoin…? Why would they do that?

    No, they trade it for money? See this is what I mean. You have to pretend to be a simpleton because your ego doesn’t allow you to accept reality.

    No more so than this:

    I’m suffering from a slipping rib, so you’re honestly making me go “my sides” because I chuckling at you.

    Gold is exactly the same value it was in 1980.

    Like I predicted, you think it’s increased in value because the price has gone up, because you simply *look at the numbers. *

    Like I said yesterday, this isn’t a debate.

    This is entertainment.

    I didn’t say that. Now you’re literally just making things up.

    Another thing I’ve said before: you pretend like implications don’t exist, because you have to, so that you can avoid the simple things which prove you wrong.

    You said “I should check the definition of the word”. I did, and just like I said, Bitcoin has exponentially increased in value, whereas gold has not. Do you understand the difference between “price” and “value”? They might seem similar, but they’re not the same thing.

    Except I did. Are you illiterate?

    Apparently so, please, do tell me what that thing is that is worth TRILLIONS, or even just billions? No? Can’t come up with a single thing, like I’ve said a dozen times, but can’t address me having sourced that black markets are worth TRILLIONS from a creditable source like Europol. But that makes you ashamed so you have to pretend I’m not right and you’re not just equivocating because you’re avoiding the facts.

    You haven’t done that.

    Ah yes, because you pretend something doesn’t exist, it doesn’t? Do you play and hide and seek by closing your eyes, because the others surely can’t see you if you can’t see them, right?

    I have actually, just more illiteracy on your part. Maybe try going back and sounding it all out?

    Pathological avoidance. "Yawn.

    You can’t even offer rationale as to your weird delusions would be correct, but still kick and scream that Europol data is wrong.

    " No, it’s not mainly used for the drug markets worth trillions that you’ve proved by Data from Europol and it isn’t even relevant to your claim"

    I imagine that’s what you look like right now.

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      No, they trade it for money?

      Uhhh… you’re lost. Let me help you out.

      Me:

      To be clear, I use Bitcoin for legal transactions (not exchanges) somewhat regularly. Would actually be extremely cumbersome to send boosts using gold, funny enough. Probably why people don’t do it.

      You:

      To purchase what, exactly? Or to buy and sell Bitcoin?

      So I said I use Bitcoin for legal transactions, gave you and example, and you asked if I used it to buy and sell Bitcoin… Damn, you really are illiterate.

      Apparently so, please, do tell me what that thing is that is worth TRILLIONS, or even just billions?

      Moving goalposts. Yawn.

      but can’t address me having sourced that black markets are worth TRILLIONS from a creditable source like Europol

      Again, I did. You’re illiterate.

      your weird delusions

      Again, such as?

      “No, it’s not mainly used for the drug markets worth trillions that you’ve proved by Data from Europol”

      I never said that. Stop making things up.

      it isn’t even relevant

      It isn’t relevant to the claim which is: “Bitcoin is bad so creator is ashamed.”

      To recap, your argument there is: “Holding Bitcoin indirectly funds crime” – such a boring take. I’ll add it to the pile along with how I’m murdering Gazan babies and burning the planet 🥱.

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        Moving goalposts. Yawn.

        Literally from the start I said that Bitcoin is propped up by illegal markets, because it is. You asked for a source, I showed you sources showing the value of drug markets which use Bitcoin are in THE TRILLIONS.

        That proves my argument. You then started shifting goalposts. And every time you end up saying something silly, like “Bitcoin didn’t exponentially grow in value, or if it did, so has gold”, then try to prove that statement by showing data which proves you wrong. :D

        It’s hilarious.

        Again, I did. You’re illiterate.

        “I said I’m right because me saying how I totally use Bitcoin all the time for legal transactions worth at least like, dozens of dollars, proves that Bitcoin isn’t actually propped by illegal drug markets”

        I never said that

        I never said you said anything. I implied you implied it, which you did. Or have you not been pretending like implications don’t exist, but you genuinely don’t understand what the word means?

        : “Holding Bitcoin indirectly funds crime”

        I NEVER SAID THAT STOP MAKING THINGS UP :(((((((((

        See how childish that sounds?

        Investing in Bitcoin does fund crime. That’s a simple fact proven over and over by what can easily be inferred from the fact that practically all of the transactions in Bitcoin are for drugs, monetary value, I don’t give a toss if you think buying some booster packs makes even the slightest dent in the TRILLIONS that the drug markets are worth. Not to even talk about all the other crime.

        You also have to pretend you said Bitcoin hasn’t exponentially grown in value. It has. You claimed “if Bitcoin has, then gold has as well” and showed evidence proving you wrong.

        I can’t make anything as entertaining, thanks.

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          1 day ago

          if you use Bitcoin as a “store of value”, you’re indirectly supporting drug cartels

          🥱

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            8 hours ago

            Oh max comment depth reached, but you’re still sore for some more public humiliation? Sure, buddy.

            You can’t address anything you’ve said in the thread. I love commenting, because I can talk about the argument I made and how everything I’ve said has been correct, while you’ve been fumbling about and now have to avoid literally everything you said because you made stupid mistakes that you’re ashamed to admit.

            You didn’t account for inflation, and just looked at the price of gold while arguing it’s value has gone through “exponential” growth? This is hilarious.

            You have delusions of not supporting drug cartels when you’re “holding bitcoin” (meaning you’ve probably invested in it after it became popular due to the drug business, but if you had won some from like a esports tournament before it was popular then you wouldnt be supporting drug cartels just by holding on to it, which is why words matter.)

            You’ve also avoided telling me what your native language is. Prolly because it prolly is English and you’re just ashamed to admit how stupid you have been. :D

            “exponential” indeed.

            But hey, I know your ego will force you to come here with some other emoji reply. I’ve seen it literally thousands of times. I’ll keep going as long as you want to. Becuase it’s not me you’re lying to. It’s yourself. You simply cant accept yourself, that you were wrong, you were stupid. It happens. It’s nothing to be ashamed of. You learned new things. Accept it an move on.

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            “Holding” =/= investing

            Using =/= holding.

            I’ve asked a few times now, what’s your native language? Can’t be English, can it?

            “Exponential” has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn’t have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?

            Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there’s trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it’s value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I’ve proved a dozen times, are criminals.

            But you can’t address any of that.

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              15 hours ago

              if you use Bitcoin as a “store of value”, you’re indirectly supporting drug cartels

              🥱

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                11 hours ago

                Oh wee got to the point where you’ve just completely shut down and are just having such a tantrum you won’t even inputting words, but have to spam smileys.

                Yawn”, like some kid told me earlier.

                “Holding” =/= investing

                Using =/= holding.

                I’ve asked a few times now, what’s your native language? Can’t be English, can it?

                “Exponential” has a meaning as well. Remember when you told me to check it, and I did, and then you still stomped your foot about how Bitcoin didn’t have exponential growth in value, or if it did, then gold did as well, then you proceeded to prove yourself wrong? Remember that?

                Well, that all happened after I linked you proof of how there’s trillions in value being used by the drug trade. This means that if you invest in that market, it’s value will grow, and the people who already have the largest market portion and are holding the most, experience the most profit. And those people, like I’ve proved a dozen times, are criminals.

                But you can’t address any of that. You can’t even say anything anymore.

                Just keep shaming yourself publicly, because you can’t stand behind your words, you fumble make embarrassing mistakes, prove yourself wrong with your own data. It’s ridiculous.

                Let’s see how you’re gonna continue this tantrum.

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                  10 hours ago

                  I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone put so much effort into shadowboxing to defend such a boring take.

                  🥱

                  I’ll add it to the pile along with how I’m murdering Gazan babies and burning the planet.

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                    10 hours ago

                    Like I’ve said all along, you know you’re wrong, and you’re just unable to admit it. I’ve seen this tantrum literally thousands of times online.

                    What you should do is take the L and slink away, but you wont.

                    You’ll keep replying out of some weird obsession, despite being very clearly wrong about a bunch of things, which I’m gonna list once more.

                    I proved my claim that supporting Bitcoin indirectly supports drug cartels, (with data from Europol among other sources). You couldn’t accept it. You started having this tantrum, which I’ve been being entertained by for days.

                    You said Bitcoin hasn’t had exponential growth, and then thought that gold did, and then linked data proving yourself wrong.

                    How much more can you shame yourself man? Just take the L, bow and next time don’t talk about shit you don’t understand the basics of. :D