• 1984@lemmy.today
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    20 hours ago

    I think it also has to do with the economy, not just nazi salutes. Its a bad job market, people dont have money, so luxary cars are not going to be attractive.

    Also there is hardly any reason to buy a Tesla… Volvo recharge and others are better cars, made by actual car companies with a good reputation for quality.

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      19 hours ago

      it definitely has to do when musk being a nazi.

      Tesla used to be the brand, the good quality car, the one that you want to get.

      (at least that was how the public saw it, car affictionados don’t count)

      now it’s just cringe

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        8 hours ago

        Tesla has NEVER been the good quality car. Ever.

        Tesla was the techy car. The fast car. The fun car. The virtue signaling car. The convienent car. Lots of things, but they have never been the good quality car.

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      19 hours ago

      Telsa used to be a status symbol, and sexy.

      But then their chief chap couldn’t seem to publicly pronounce the popular phrase “Nazi’s suck and I wish to have nothing to do with them”.

      Now Telsa is an anti-status symbol.

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      16 hours ago

      There are plenty of Europeans that still have money. These are aimed at the upper upper classes and people in those strata have not been feeling the economic pinch the way many of us have.

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      19 hours ago

      Idk why are you being downvoted. Musk being a nazi is the last of the problems for Tesla. They had being outcompete by BYD in every measure.

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        10 hours ago

        Me, my friends, my colleagues are the target audience for Model 3/Y’s. I drive a Model 3 and some colleagues do as well. Pretty much all of them and myself say the same thing: The cars top the list in terms of value versus price and has the features we want and need, but we will not buy or (company) lease a Tesla (again) due to the nazi in charge. Simple as that.

        At this point, people don’t even take Tesla’s into consideration anymore due to the nazi. So I would say that’s far worse than the competition with BYD.

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          8 hours ago

          Exactly the same for me and my circle. I got a model 3 and got at least 3 colleagues and friends to buy one after a test drive.

          I won’t sell it now because it’s still a good car and I would lose a ton of money to replace it with something equivalent, but I put a fuck elon sticker on it, canceled the connectivity, avoid superchargers when possible and no longer recommend it to people.

          I’m looking for a second car and used Teslas are crazy value right now but out of principle they are out of the question. Probably will go for a Nissan Leaf, Renault Zoe, VW ID.3 or BMW i3.

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            7 hours ago

            The mentioned cars are somewhat outdated.

            You might also want to consider newer models like Renault 5, Skoda Elroq or Hyundai Ioniq.

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              6 hours ago

              Fair point, but I’m looking to buy used (i3 hasn’t been made for a few years already).

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                4 hours ago

                We bought a second hand i3 (2014) model for my SO to drive to work and back (short distances). The range is objectively horrible (about 100 km), but sufficient for my SO’s needs. Overall, we love the car! It’s so much fun to drive, and very efficient due to its light carbon fiber chassis. The car does everything we expect of it and we run it very cheap.

                Such a waste BMW didn’t iterate on the i3/i8 sooner. They would’ve knocked Tesla out of the water before they could even learn how to swim.

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                  2 hours ago

                  That’s exactly our requirement, if budget allows even getting the 90Ah model for 150km. Plus I love the looks, weird and futuristic. Thanks for sharing!