He’s already there dipshit. Look around you
Best reply.
I feel like the US is more like a Second World country. By “Second World”, I mean the countries that are more aligned to Russia than to NATO. That description now fits the US, unfortunately.
Happy cake day fellow
ex-RedditorlemmingAnd a happy cake day to you!
A country that has no national healthcare, a life-style of economic struggle and a dictator for a leader? Hmmmm.
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For Republicans it actually boosts their poll numbers.
People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.
Magazis.
People want to be openly racist again. That’s what MAGA really means.
And on this one should think a bit further and realize that any action causes a reaction.
Maybe outright socially punishing racism shouldn’t have been the focus, and instead more effort should have been spent making sure more people know how, well, genetics work and also dream of stuff not involving racial difference, like future space travel or peaceful united humanity, that kind of thing. So that they’d make their own conclusions and have their own wishes.
So - they are tired of “the establishment” not making anything better, and that means they are also tired of some rules of public decency associated with that establishment. One of the reasons MAGA activism looks so gross - they want it to look gross. Because “gross” is not like that picture of “respectable politics”, so already better.
In general studying psychology of people who are your opponents is beneficial. And especially hard when you can’t make yourself respect them.
Nothing quite like logging onto lemmy and reading the most “if minorities were nicer then people would be less racist” victim blaming comment. No, there is no world in which minorities rolling over and gently teaching misguided racists gets them equal rights. We have a systemic issue in the US where the right has been defunding education and pushing vitriolic rhetoric for decades. Minorities should not need to prove their humanity at every turn just to stay alive, nevertheless participate in politics.
Right, chase all racists back under their rock for another generation. They are openly declaring they do not wish to participate in our society when they speak that way.
They can chase you, idiot! Racists and other kinds of such are always the majority of people actually caring to apply force.
They are now assraping your country because they were chased under a rock for a generation. That’s the whole bloody reason!
What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.
Were anti-lynching laws a mistake? Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?
It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.
What are you even saying? There is no statement in your statement.
There is.
Were anti-lynching laws a mistake?
No.
Was assertive anti-racist education a mistake?
Some of it - may be.
It sounds to me as if you advocate capitulation.
No, I advocate not hurting the definitely noble cause by actions clearly harmful. Force-feeding people something is a sure way to make them resist.
Anti-racist education shouldn’t be busy with throwing something people don’t believe into their faces. That absolutely never works, and the reason some other people want to do that is to assert dominance. They don’t have dominance to assert, they are bitches.
Knowledge of genetics (school biology level) is by itself a lot of what’s needed to discard racism as an approach.
Knowledge of history, economics and why social mobility matters are by themselves a lot of what’s needed to discard segregation as an approach.
Empathy too. Mark Twain and Harriet Beecher Stowe are in your school curriculum, are they not?
It’s right up there with “if you stopped acting so gay you wouldn’t get bullied”
Thank you for confirming that Star Trek fans are still incapable of reading a text.
Right? I can’t believe this person seriously responded to my comment with that bullshit. And people are upvoting him.
You can’t fucking read!
Loving how every reply is being met with a “you can’t read!” instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be. It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”
If only they knew how to read you could save yourself so much exasperation.
Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?
instead of explaining wherever you believe the disconnect may be
I’ve literally said that. People thinking the reason for racists raising their heads is because they are not forced sufficiently harshly to thing and talk the right way - these people are complete idiots, or fixing the actual problem is not what they really want from the subject.
It’s not you that’s wrong, it’s every person who’s replying to your comment that “doesn’t know how to read”
This is incorrect, I’ve met some capable.
Seriously though, spell it out for us dunces in the back. What is everyone missing here?
You bunch of jerks are not “everyone”. See my answer to the first quote.
Why did you type all that instead of actually reading my comment?
I mean, this is the best kind of illustration I could get for education allowing people to make right decisions and against pressure to behave.
You clearly lack said education and apparently think you can apply pressure.
Nothing I said has anything to do with minorities.
I did read your comment, that is why I responded the way I did. If you can’t link that minorities are the ones affected by racism, I don’t think that you should be commenting on racial politics in the US.
You don’t seem to be able to separate your own logic from the context of my conclusions, implicitly assuming either my context is the same, or it’s my fault if it’s not.
In other words, you are unprepared for any intelligent discussion, which your first reply shows well enough.
So much for who should be opening their mouth or touching their keyboard on whichever subject.
You lost me at “not socially punishing racism”.
Sorry but GTFOH with your racism apologism.
Republicans are also cutting education so fat chance getting these people educated also.
And that’s why you deserve whatever you get, because you are not even capable of properly reading a thought wiser than your whole fucking life, without even any pressure being put on you.
I said that if you punish people, they don’t go all “sorry uncle, I won’t do that again”, they go all “fuck you motherfucker, I’m getting a gun”. Is that clear?
So punishing anyone anywhere is a bad idea by default, there are very specific cases when there’s no better solution. Mostly when the other side can only be stopped by force.
Have you considered that your perspective on the matter could be skewed by your own inability to take critique maturely? Most adults are able self-reflect and grow as people from interactions with others of differing perspectives. It’s only a small percentage who react violently, and frankly, they are bullies who should not be catered to.
Have you considered that your own level of discussion might not be worth holding emotions inside wasting effort?
Or a punch in the face?
or a shot to the head?
punch to the side of the head, I mean, obviously
Happy cake day.
Fingers crossed it’s extinction burst behavior.
Republican Representative Brandon Gill has told New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani to “go back to the Third World” in response to a video of him eating with his hands.
I guess this asshole has never eaten a burger, chicken, hot dog etc. Fucking racist piece of shit.
He eats pizza with a knife and fork… allegedly
Shovels beer nuts in his mouth like some kind of grotesque beast
And it wasn’t intended to be eaten with them from the beginning. The dry fat rim is for holding it.
Straight from central casting, judging by his photo.
He’s Dinesh D’Souza’s son in law
Hell, I’ll eat anything with my hands if it means Americans can have universal healthcare.
I will happily eat macaroni or soup with my hands for the rest of my life if that means everyone gets Healthcare.
Brandon Gill does, in fact, look like the kind of person who would eat a burger with a knife and fork.
In Russia it was impolite, actually, to eat chicken not with your hands. Can’t say why, maybe it’s the possibility of bones splitting and flying away, and maybe it’s that some of the meat remains on the bones, so some visible food gets thrown out. As a kid I would sometimes get looks (making my hands oiled and dirty I don’t like, being autistic and just because it’s inconvenient).
In any case I’m not sure someone’s eating habits affect their politics, unless demonstrating lack of basic hygiene or involving cannibalism.
I might start eating Doritos with a fork and knife just to be extra “civilized”.
NGL, I eat chips with chopsticks a lot. Prevents crumbs from getting all over the place.
Zohran getting under their skin. Love to see it
remember, the super rich are the enemy of the people, not your fellow citizens from different backgrounds
I have more in common with a homeless person in Somalia, India, or China than I do with the super rich.
No War Except Class War
The owning class is the only minority group that does you any harm.
It feels like this slogan is only repeated in left spaces, which then feels like a leftist version of centrists throwing trans people under the bus to chase conservatives. The people who are the primary purveyors of petty hate need to be the priority for the message before anyone on the left is going to feel like preaching tolerance for intolerance is anything but a way to smuggle bigotry into left political spaces.
Isn’t he in the US right now?
I chortled
What a racist piece of shit.
Go back to your redneck farm you fucking hick.
This guy’s wife had to declare that she doesn’t eat with her hands because her husband is so racist.
what a vile excuse of a human being. I hope she is devorcing this racist cunt
She’s probably a racist piece of shit as well. Like her father is Dinesh D’Souza. She was raised by racist piece of shit. She still married to a racist after experiencing what a racist man looks like for her whole life. She probably thinks the racism and bigotry are good character qualities.
There is nothing wrong with living in a rural area or being a blue collar worker. The last sentence there is unnecessary.
As someone who has been in both those demographics, this guy doesn’t represent me or the hardworking albeit sometimes simple people I grew up around.
Please don’t use those words as a cudgel. It drives those undereducated and uninvolved people to identify more with this asshole than the progressives that have more in common with them beneath the surface.
So you’re not even acknowledging the full fledged racism that is the topic in this little whataboutism speech you put together there?
Nothing about the racism. Not one word to nod to the overarching story here.
So which part of you missed that? The rural part?
US is currently burning wheat farms cuz the world has shifted off of cheap wheat for something more stable.
And the world knows which ones are the red states and are boycotting.
So You have two choices: take it personally or acknowledge a consequence of ignoring racism and self interest replacing it with apathy and revenge. Just know this: Neither will make a difference in the long run. You’re still headed to the same destination. So even now with at this point you’re begging to ignore it. Noted.
You’re just echoing the overall problem here by not even acknowledging the topic.
It drives those undereducated and uninvolved people to identify more with this asshole
Don’t even pretend you were ever an ally.
When Trump fucks up do you call him a fatty?
When a black judge says women belong in the kitchen do you say “go back to the plantation!”
A woman supports Trump. “Shut up cumdumpster, go make me sandwich if you want to be trad”
That guy brought up something said HERE ON THIS WEBSITE. Someone HERE threw out redneck for living in the sticks. You’re fucking dumb if you think people need to write an essay on what they think of a topic before they can point out issues in discourse.
See that? I don’t need to prove anything to call you out. I don’t need to call out racism to call out dumb posts.
Before you reply, make sure to write an essay about why it’s ok to insult unrelated groups of people in order to hurt an individual. At least follow your own weird rules.
It’s clear this guy is an asshole. You are frothing trying to make an enemy of me but read with a little more care. I was always an ally and you are here trying to divide us. I feel like you didnt understand my comment so I’ll repeat with emphasis.
It(Your use of redneck and hick as a pejorative.) drives those undereducated and uninvolved people(Single issue/peer sensative voters) to identify more with this asshole( The racist asshole that you somehow need me to clearly point out is both racist and an asshole.)
Read carefully.
So your plan to have him removed from power is what?
Genuine question since you don’t seem to want to win elections.
Obviously he’s a cunt, so winning against him should be a cakewalk then.
“Go back to the third world”
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“Go back to your recheck farm”
so only then it got offensive for you.
Only one of those things was said here on this site, in this thread, by a lemming that we can directly criticize.
Shouldn’t the space we occupy and the people we are immediately surrounded with be put above performative anger at external topics?
The politician said terrible things. Posting about it only goes so far.
A lemming said bad things. We can affect that.
It’s clear I thought the first was offensive as well. Lemmy is all righteous anger and no purpose these days.
so they raised a hog on a cattle ranch
What is this high school?
American government sounds more and more like the varsity sports team of America High
Pretty much.
Look up Jim Jorden on you tube to really see high school nonsense. He’s been at it for a decade.You mean Gym Jordan, who didn’t report on the sexual assault of teenagers under his care? That Gym Jordan?
It’s not even entertaining anymore. It’s pure cringe.
Think the overt racism is bad now; it’s only going to get progressively worse.
It’s the only way the right is progressive.
Words cannot describe the hate I have for the entire American establishment with the exception of Bernie, Zohran, and AOC.
Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Mark Kelly I’ll even chuck Tim Waltz in there.
Don’t forget Scott Kelly, not a politician but spaceman and just as cool as his twin.
Maybe we need more astronauts in government, take a good look at the big blue ball before making life and death decisions.
Add them to the exceptions too
Jasmin Crockett might be a decent addition too. Wish Katie Porter was still in.
We should throw in Supreme Court Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Ketanji Brown Jackson and Elena Kagan.
It’s got to be draining when you know half of your peers don’t even read the cases anymore
Yesss! Ms. Crockett is a true warrior! More like her, please.
Hot Take, I don’t like Tim “Expand Israel’s Borders” Walz.
Not really sure that’s his stance. Pretty sure he’s made it clear they shouldn’t be killing Palestinian kids
Tim Walz said it was his stance during the debates, live on CNN.
MB: Thank you, Norah. Earlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel. But that attack failed thanks to joint U.S. and Israeli defensive action. President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 U.S. military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war. Iran is weakened, but the U.S. still considers it the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and it has drastically reduced the time it would take to develop a nuclear weapon. It is down now to one or two weeks time. Governor Walz, if you are the final voice in the situation room, would you support or oppose a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran? You have two minutes.
TW: Well, thank you. And thank you for those joining at home tonight. Let’s keep in mind where this started. October 7th, Hamas terrorists massacred over 1400 Israelis and took prisoners. Iran, or, Israel’s ability to be able to defend itself is absolutely fundamental, getting its hostages back, fundamental, and ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. But the expansion of Israel and its proxies is an absolute, fundamental necessity for the United States to have the steady leadership there. You saw it experienced today, where, along with our Israeli partners and our coalition, able to stop the incoming attack. But what’s fundamental here is that steady leadership is going to matter. It’s clear. And the world saw it on that debate stage a few weeks ago. A nearly 80 year old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment. But it’s not just that. It’s those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand how dangerous he is when the world is this dangerous. His Chief of Staff, John Kelly, said that he was the most flawed humanity being he’d ever met. And both of his Secretaries of Defense and his national security advisors said he should be nowhere near the White House. Now, the person closest to them, to Donald Trump, said he’s unfit for the highest office. That was Senator Vance. What we’ve seen out of Vice President Harris is we’ve seen steady leadership. We’ve seen a calmness that is able to be able to draw on the coalitions, to bring them together, understanding that our allies matter. When our allies see Donald Trump turn towards Vladimir Putin, turn towards North Korea, when we start to see that type of fickleness around holding the coalitions together, we will stay committed. And as the Vice President said today, is we will protect our forces and our allied forces, and there will be consequences.
Now don’t get me wrong, I voted for him as Harris’ VP and I would do it again, but I do not like him and I would not be happy if he runs again.
So your quoting something that was clearly misspoken as why you dislike him so greatly. The sentence makes no sense as many pointed out on every news station at the time saying he misspoke.
If it wasn’t two sentences garbled together like everyone assumed, who exactly are Israel proxies that he wants to expand? It very clearly was meant to be something along the line of Iran and it’s proxies (referring to the actual subject of the conversation, Hezbollah) are expanding. Hezbollah “expanding” at the time was considered a big threat because the U.S. was dumping shit tons of cash to stop the attacks on ships instead of telling Israel we would sanction them and cut all further support unless they withdrew from Gaza and called an immediate permanent ceasefire. (Which is why Hezbollah was shooting at ships).
Biden should have made an executive order to do so and demanded the sanctions be placed. (which Congress would have said no too, but if the president bluffed, we don’t know if Israel would have stopped or been certain they could wait for Congress to say no).
Fuck off, I’m allowed to not like Tim Walz for his shit take on Israel.
What’s his take?
Al Green and Katie Porter are another two that seem alright
That’s also true. I was just naming the first three that came to my head in the moment lol
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Show Kat Abughazeleh some love.
Ive heard of her. She’s running in my homestate so I will vote for her.
I like her. If I was American and lived in your area I would vote for her
Oh, I’m sorry. Which country is it again that can’t do UHC but can spend billions on blowing up rockets while people starve and or can’t find homes/shelter in this same “first world country”?
Is it India? Because that’s where Gill’s father in law, political commentator and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza is from. Maybe the D’Souzas can leave and take Gill with them.
Gill married Danielle D’Souza, the daughter of conservative political commentator Dinesh D’Souza, in 2017. They have two children and live in Flower Mound, Texas.
So Gill’s father and wife are okay but a foreigner with differing political opinions is crossing the line?
With the whole Glastonbury kerfuffle I’ve come to know more about this band called Bob Vylan. They have this lovely song, and it goes ike this:
I heard you want your country back Shut the fuck up I heard you want your country back Uh-uh, you can't have that The only place I know Stolen right under my nose By ignorant scum Tryna lay claim to a land that ain't theirs anyway Wait - what did you say? I heard you want your country back Ha! Shut the fuck up I heard you want your country back Uh-uh, you can't have that I heard you want your country back Ha! Shut the fuck up I heard you want your country back Well shit, me tooBlatant racism aside, look around at the devastation wrought by repugnantcon policies buddy. Zohran is already in a 3rd world shithole, and he has the audacity to try to make it somewhat more tolerable for those in his city.
The term is pretty racist itself, since it was created to refer to tertiary countryies in the Cold War, but soon came to simultaneously suggest those countries were lesser. Calling a failing state “3rd world” just further perpetuates that.
The majority of those countries were robbed by first world countries for centuries so anyone using the phrase without any moral reflection is intentionally not looking at the whole picture.
Smells like fear
