It sometimes is. The character Shylock was Jewish. He was also someone who loaned money at high interest rates.
Trump was talking about borrowing money, not about Jews. So in that context, probably not antisemitic. Though given the audience, it could be a dog whistle.
It’s mostly a nothing burger.
So just another case of attacking Trump on something unimportant and diverting attention from the actual terrible things he’s doing.
I have noticed it’s kind of common for older people to say this and not know the origins or antisemitic connotations. If someone who was Trump’s age but a little bit smarter said this, I would think maybe it was intentional but since he’s such an idiot there’s a decent chance he really didn’t know ot was offensive. As much as I hate Trump and all he stands for, I can believe this one was truly accidental.
This one is just super common with old people not thinking through that it might be offensive though. Pretty much all my older relatives use this one occasionally and none of them would be intentionally anti-semitic. Trump isn’t a god of manipulation or anything, he’s an idiot who has the wealth and charisma to make everyone think he’s not an idiot. By ascribing this intelligence and intention to him, you’re kind of falling into right wing propaganda by unknowingly accepting the false premises they are selling to all of us. Trump is an idiot who doesn’t think things through when he says them. His advisors do think things through and do have a lot more intelligence and intention to their words and actions, but Trump himself does not.
I agree with you he definitely doesn’t think things through. I also agree he’s using a generational word. I personally think he’s got anti social personality disorder and at the very least he’s a documented dv abuser, they’re manipulative. They can be thick as fuck, but with good manipulation skills
Any time you use a word for a racial/religious group that is not their own chosen preferred name (in this case “Jews” or "Hebrew"s) you’re running a very high risk of stepping into slur territory. This isn’t unique to older generations but they seem to have a harder time understanding it.
I remember flinching when hearing older generations (like Greatest Generation and Silent Generation) using terms like getting “gypped” and having someone “jew them out” of something. Took me longer to figure out the gypped connection, but using Jew as a verb? Wow.
When I was a kid, everyone was “fag”. It was the go-to catchall insult. It’s been hard to rewire my brain to stop doing that. So I kind of get it to an extent. If you never stop and think about these things they just seem normal.
I remember those days. I also remember when people would call things/people “gay” as kind of a generic thing, even if it was not remotely about something that was actually gay, even into the 90s. As a kid, I remember a common game was called “smear the queer”…I also remember a common insult was calling someone a “woman”, and “throwing like a girl” and so on. What a world. I suppose this kind of thing still goes on a lot, probably most behind closed doors? My parents never had a lot of tolerance for any of it, but they were definitely in the minority on saying anything about it where I grew up (very rural). My mother especially didn’t go in for that misogyny stuff.
I honestly think a lot of people are so resistant to any change at all that requires even the lowest amount of effort (simply not using certain words) and these are some that voted for Taco in the hopes their lazy asses could go back to not having to keep this behind closed doors any more. These are the people that howled about “PC” in the 90s, bitched about Obama “fundamentally changing” America, whined about wearing a mask and getting vaccinated, and screeched about “DEI” and “CRT” and people being “woke” and others getting “cancelled”. Some of them are surely hateful, but I also think a lot of them are just really fucking lazy. Not saying a word or a phrase when it’s obviously hurtful? A bridge too far.
But do you claim to be as smart as Trump claims to be ? Because it seems that smartest, biggest most beautiful brained leaders these days do not know Shakespearean references.
The word is “Shylock”, just to save you a click.
I had no idea that was a slur, but it makes sense I guess.
For those unaware of the origin, It’s a name of a Jewish moneylender character in The Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare.
Trump is well versed in the ancient arts of antisemitism.
It sometimes is. The character Shylock was Jewish. He was also someone who loaned money at high interest rates.
Trump was talking about borrowing money, not about Jews. So in that context, probably not antisemitic. Though given the audience, it could be a dog whistle.
It’s mostly a nothing burger.
So just another case of attacking Trump on something unimportant and diverting attention from the actual terrible things he’s doing.
I have noticed it’s kind of common for older people to say this and not know the origins or antisemitic connotations. If someone who was Trump’s age but a little bit smarter said this, I would think maybe it was intentional but since he’s such an idiot there’s a decent chance he really didn’t know ot was offensive. As much as I hate Trump and all he stands for, I can believe this one was truly accidental.
May well be, however he’s calculating and manipulative. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was deliberate.
This one is just super common with old people not thinking through that it might be offensive though. Pretty much all my older relatives use this one occasionally and none of them would be intentionally anti-semitic. Trump isn’t a god of manipulation or anything, he’s an idiot who has the wealth and charisma to make everyone think he’s not an idiot. By ascribing this intelligence and intention to him, you’re kind of falling into right wing propaganda by unknowingly accepting the false premises they are selling to all of us. Trump is an idiot who doesn’t think things through when he says them. His advisors do think things through and do have a lot more intelligence and intention to their words and actions, but Trump himself does not.
I agree with you he definitely doesn’t think things through. I also agree he’s using a generational word. I personally think he’s got anti social personality disorder and at the very least he’s a documented dv abuser, they’re manipulative. They can be thick as fuck, but with good manipulation skills
Any time you use a word for a racial/religious group that is not their own chosen preferred name (in this case “Jews” or "Hebrew"s) you’re running a very high risk of stepping into slur territory. This isn’t unique to older generations but they seem to have a harder time understanding it.
I remember flinching when hearing older generations (like Greatest Generation and Silent Generation) using terms like getting “gypped” and having someone “jew them out” of something. Took me longer to figure out the gypped connection, but using Jew as a verb? Wow.
When I was a kid, everyone was “fag”. It was the go-to catchall insult. It’s been hard to rewire my brain to stop doing that. So I kind of get it to an extent. If you never stop and think about these things they just seem normal.
I remember those days. I also remember when people would call things/people “gay” as kind of a generic thing, even if it was not remotely about something that was actually gay, even into the 90s. As a kid, I remember a common game was called “smear the queer”…I also remember a common insult was calling someone a “woman”, and “throwing like a girl” and so on. What a world. I suppose this kind of thing still goes on a lot, probably most behind closed doors? My parents never had a lot of tolerance for any of it, but they were definitely in the minority on saying anything about it where I grew up (very rural). My mother especially didn’t go in for that misogyny stuff.
I honestly think a lot of people are so resistant to any change at all that requires even the lowest amount of effort (simply not using certain words) and these are some that voted for Taco in the hopes their lazy asses could go back to not having to keep this behind closed doors any more. These are the people that howled about “PC” in the 90s, bitched about Obama “fundamentally changing” America, whined about wearing a mask and getting vaccinated, and screeched about “DEI” and “CRT” and people being “woke” and others getting “cancelled”. Some of them are surely hateful, but I also think a lot of them are just really fucking lazy. Not saying a word or a phrase when it’s obviously hurtful? A bridge too far.
That’s really well put, I have no notes.
But do you claim to be as smart as Trump claims to be ? Because it seems that smartest, biggest most beautiful brained leaders these days do not know Shakespearean references.