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  • npdean@lemmy.today
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    14 hours ago

    It is a war industry for the Western countries because the war is never on their soil. It is a defence industry for everyone else.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      yeah russia sure is defending the shit out of itself invading ukraine.

      I get it, western countries bad, but for fucks sake have a bit of perspective.

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        11 hours ago

        NATO expansionism is the root cause of this war. NATO instigated this war and Russia got baited.

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          9 hours ago

          I’ll bite. In the 5 years leading up to Russia invading Ukraine, what did NATO do that warrants such a move by Russia?

        • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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          11 hours ago

          ROFLS you really believe that huh?

          even after russia guaranteed ukraine’s security in the budapest memorandum?

          wow. amazing.

              • npdean@lemmy.today
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                10 hours ago

                No, but they did promise protection. So far, there has been no protection given, only money.

                Problem with talking about USA in this conflict is everytime immediately assumes that anyone accusing USA of anything is automatically supporting Russia.

                • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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                  9 hours ago

                  So far, there has been no protection given

                  just tons and tons of ordinance, from the javelins that stopped the taking of Kiev to the artillery, apcs, aircraft and munitions for everything from autocannons to patriots, yeah, no protection whatsoever.

                  problem with talking about USA in this conflict are the spineless fucks who keep undermining our support to appease PUTIN. Ukraine deserves more, but we’re stymied by the kompromised members of our government.

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                    7 hours ago

                    That’s my whole point, only money has been given. US troops should have been deployed to Ukraine.

    • starlinguk@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      The war is never on their soil? WW1 and 2 and Yugoslavia ring a bell? And Ukraine is a western country too.

      They predict that Russia will attack western Europe in 2027, by the way.

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        11 hours ago

        We are talking about the war/defence industry which is a much newer thing when countries started selling weapons and such to other countries on a large scale and during their own non-war times, like the last 50 years of American history. If countries sold weapons to each other during WW2, it was because they were involved in the war themselves. Nowadays, it is just selling weapons and watching others burn each other down.

        Predictions have been going on since forever about so many things. Doesn’t make it any truer. China is going to annex Taiwan, Russia is going to attack Europe, Iran is weeks away from nukes. Funnily, there are no predictions about USA doing stuff.