It was a sharp rebuke to the prosecutors who are dealing with the fallout from President Trump’s move to send National Guard troops and federal agents into Washington.
Twice in two days that they’ve failed to get a grand jury to indict on charges related to ICE retaliation.
That seems kind of unheard of, and maybe good news… However, I figure they’ll just start skipping the due process altogether like they do with accused undocumented individuals.
That seems kind of unheard of, and maybe good news…
Grand juries still come from the county where the charge was filed. I can’t imagine anyone living in DC right now is thrilled with how the feds are conducting themselves. Must be very difficult to find a jury pool willing to play along.
Good. That was a bullshit charge.
They could also forgo seeking felony charges and refile his case as a misdemeanor, which does not require an indictment to move forward.
This sounds like a job for Jury Nullification Man!
Now, this looks like a job for me
So, everybody, free the detainee
'Cause we need a lot less guilty
'Cause it feels like this man will go free
I said this looks like a job for me
So, everybody, free the detainee
'Cause we need a lot less guilty
'Cause it feels like this man will go free
Did you really not recognize it?
I did :-)
The chorus from the Busta Rhymes song above is also AAAA x2 with the same rhythm
This attitude is all over the united states, and the news, with this exception (it’s headline-worthy), is pathetic enough to make it seem like it isn’t.
Keep it up, everybody. If you can pronounce the word “no”, then you have what it takes not to be a giant fucking pussy.
How long until an executive order saying that grand juries are no longer needed for federal cases?
I mean, if Executive Orders can limit your First Amendment Rights (unconstitutional, but who TF cares these days), what are the rest of them even for?
Can they even do that?
As long as you end the EO by saying that everyone will do things according to the law. That way when they follow the instructions and break the law it’s an honest mistake and not the result of the EO.
An executive order can say anything. They may not be legal, but that small detail hasn’t stopped Trump as of yet.
Anyone with enough power has always been able to do whatever they want. Laws aren’t magic.
Do what, murder child sex traffickers in prison to cover their complicity in child sex trafficking?
Who’s going to stop them? The government?
They can do whatever they want. On the other hand, the people of the country can throw things other than sandwiches.
People tend to get confused, even when they are familiar with all these founding documents and principles (which the current government is not). They start to think there are “rules” and they get to say what’s allowed, and they can punish people who do what’s not allowed, but it doesn’t go the other way, because that’s not allowed and they’re in charge. That’s not reality. Reality is, we’re all just on this planet bebopping around, and if someone is in a “government” role, it behooves them to make sure the people “under” them agree with the idea of them being in charge. Because no one has a monopoly on violence or vigor.
Even the top leaders of the USSR (starting with Kruschev) had to figure this out: He made a mostly unspoken deal with the other leaders that he wouldn’t try to kill them for being potential threats, and in return they wouldn’t kill him to take him out of power and replace him. And what do you know, it worked! It’s better that way. The US up until now has had a little more sophisticated version, extending beyond the inner circle of leadership, but it sounds like Trump is hankering for an earlier era without really being aware of its perils.
Curiously, they could have prosecuted him for a misdemeanor without needing to get an indictment. But the prosecutors took it all the way to 11 with a felony charge. You’ll hear DAs joke that you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. But I guess this was a bridge too far.
Ah, classic mistake. The grand jury would have indicted the ham sandwich but they made the mistake of trying to prosecute the guy who threw it instead.
As they start trying to crank up the fascism hopefully we’ll see more of this and jury nullification pushing back against these constitutional violations.
We’re officially in the year 1774… One of the big catalysts for the American revolution was American juries refusing to convict, so King George (who ruled by decree) suspended jury trials and began shipping accused to England to face trial there instead.
So how long until King Trump writes an executive order (cough decrees cough) that suspends jury trials?
Producer Amy Pascal threw a sandwich at producer Kevin Feige over a disagreement about bringing Spiderman into the MCU
Hell yeah, any decent DA could indict a ham sandwich, but not over this ham sandwich bullshit.
There’s an old saying that you can indict a ham sandwich…
Maybe they should try doing that
Some of the judicial system is still holding up, so that’s good news. They really just need to do their jobs and make proper rulings according to law to be a good check against the criminal regime of Adolf Diddler.
Sortition is a really powerful tool for preventing an instition from being captured
Jury nullification is awesome.
Hm. Sounds like the Prosecutors are the actual criminals here.
Maybe the DA is utilizing a grand jury as a method of slow rolling this? The 5th Amendment only applies gran juries to capital and infamous crimes. Pretty sure a sandwich toss doesn’t usually count as either. So, if I wanted to let this guy off without looking like I was letting him off, I’d use a grand jury for these infamous crimes (knowing the grand jury will never indict a ridiculous crime like this) instead of charging a misdemeanor.
The DAs have been told to seek the maximum possible charge, so it’s about orders from above
