• midribbon_action@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    14 hours ago

    Belief in a simulation implies intelligent design of some sort, so this is, in my opinion, just a 21st century way of asking the age old question, does God exist?

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      7 hours ago

      Maybe it implies intelligent design, but I don’t think that it implies that we are a part of that intelligent design, necessarily. I mean there’s a whole universe out there that’s mostly just hot hydrogen and the space in-between with spacetime shaped accordingly. Who’s to say that life on earth isn’t just noise? Outside the scope of whoever is running the simulation? It would seem like a waste to calculate a whole universe through all of time specifically to study the great apes of earth.

      I’m inclined to believe that if our universe is running on a machine in a higher universe, it’s for something bigger than us, and its operator is likely not specifically aware of this galaxy, let alone us humans as individuals. Given the consistency we observe, any intelligent design would only be in the laws of physics and perhaps the initial conditions of the universe, everything else would be calculated based on those from there.

      We need to be careful not to be too human-centric in these discussions, because every human-centric theory of the universe that humanity has come up with so far was eventually proven wrong.

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      14 hours ago

      God is a loaded term though. Yes there would be a creator but it could be a completely passive observer.

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        7 hours ago

        Why would being in a simulation require that those who create or maintain it only observe?

        Edit: I misread, merely observing is certainly a possibility.

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        The modern Christian God is mostly a passive observer, whenever him or his agents have visited us there have been tons of miracles and magical shit, but that does not happen very often, and we’ve been basically alone for millenia while He is busy in his own realm. If Christ visited again, it would likely portend the end of the world, at least in a lot of Christian world views.

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          He might be passive but the implication is that you’re supposed to live certain way or you’ll end up in hell. This most likely isn’t the case in a simulation.

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          The world already ended, and all that jazz. Happened in 1844. Just look around you. If you brought a “modern homosapien” from 12,000 years ago to the year 1800 or even 1840-1850, they would recognize things from their world. Those things may have had eons of refinement, but a horse is still mostly a horse. Bring a modern human from 1850 to today, and they will recognize almost nothing. Their world is gone. A new one took its place, as was predicted.

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        14 hours ago

        What, did the simulator get assembled by a passing tornado? Everyone who believes in simulation theory thinks this reality was designed, constructed, usually by someone that looks like us. That’s pretty damn close to Christianity.