I was just interested to see how much had changed since December when I was randomly banned with no reason given and the appeal went unheard.
I was just planning to browse and not log in but it immediately gave me a pop-up notification to create an account.
Curious if it would allow me, I submitted the application and it went through without problem.
I didn’t want to draw too much attention to myself, so I didn’t comment or post for the first month.
Then, I made another mistake. I got invested, again and it didn’t take long before it inevitably became political.
I posted a reply to someone who had clearly been chugging the orange kool-aid. Nothing terrible, just what I thought was objective reality, easily verifiable through past reporting through many credible media outlets.
But, reddit is going to reddit. Somehow objective reality has been classified as hate speech on reddit.
I’m not surprissd. Just a little disappointed.
I appealed, I do not expect a reply.
Previously, I had been on reddit for 10 years without much incident.
This time I lasted only 2 months
i don’t even understand what is happening in the screenshot. the comment you replied to seems to make the case that he is at fault, and used it as an example to someone defending someone else who incited something but didn’t actively participate. what’s the context here?
Yeah, they attempted to go abstract to try to prove I don’t entirely know what
i think they either agree that he was culpable or they used the assumption that you would find him culpable as an argument that inciting violence does make one guilty to some degree.
the problem is there isn’t really any evidence that the left called for his head (especially a head that big; even the shooter knew he couldn’t penetrate that dome with mere bullets), and certainly not anyone of significance… while the jan6 was incited by the most powerful person in the world.
You can get banned from reddit for saying you would have shot Hitler.
you can get banned from reddit for saying that people like Hitler shouldn’t exist
dont even need to say anything, looking at it wrong will get you shadowbanned: posting too fast, too much, or too similar to another comment, or positng too soon after account creation will get you banned. or somehow your browser or ip changes to suddenly too.
For every legit user banned for even casual talk of violence against Christian fascists, they replace them with a dozen fucking bots.
or, reddit is only going after the lowest hanging fruit, and leaving propaganda bots mostly untouched. they only do something when public complaints makes a stink about these bots. i noticed this trend, propaganda bots are rampant, but there more or less very little way to remove them. the massive purges, filters have been going after real users, OF accounts, or link sharing types. by the way it only sets back the latter 2 anyways temporarily, while IRL who arent using ban evasion methods are permanently banned.
I got banned for racism … for making fun of Vogons. They’re not even a race, and more importantly, they don’t even exist.
My cousin’s permaban was for saying “I won’t let a single Saiyan live” in a dragon ball sub. Saiyans are not real.
And then actual, unchecked racism is rampant.
And then actual, unchecked racism is rampant.
This is the key. Moderation is both heavy-handed AND not fit for purpose.
Facebook had the same problem a few years ago, and they “fixed” it by not bothering to moderate any more.
REDDIT is heading towards that. it will be a clone of X ANd facebook. the admins arnt bothering to listen to most appeals anyways.
Its definitely Ai moderating that, it look for key phrases or words, like “live, or something referring to unalive”
Don’t forget reddit also allows pedophilia from creeps like srgrafo to have massive subreddits with over 100k people in it.
What?
Wait, srgrafo’s a pedo creep? When did that come out?
who is this srgrafo person?
I hope you didn’t threaten to feed a vogon’s grandmother to the ravenous bugblatter beast of trall?
No, that would have been an automod ban – and perfectly understandable.
My cat’s name is Clark, which gradually sometimes became Clark-a-doodle, which became Doodle, which became Doodlebug, which became Bug and occasionally Buggle.
When I’m frustrated with him, it’s now sometimes Frettled Gruntbuggly.
My cat Martha somehow became “Muffin Sweetie”.
which sub was this? was r/conservative, you get banned very easily, plus any bans you recieve automatically flags your account by the site, and some mods have connections with admins.
And AI-generated user profiling. Like say if you hate fascists in general, admire a certain Luigi and even talk about committing violence against fascists, the mods/admins will pull up that profile and use it to slap a ban.
They like hobbyists. They don’t want hobbyists talking about progressive politics and propaganda of the deed.
I got perma banned without a single word. Hadn’t done anything other than maybe miss a few rules on a sub, but nothing which warrented a ban. Maybe a headsup that I forgot a rule. The level of dictatorship they run over there is pretty wild. Fairly certain it’s just A.I/bots running wild, flagging for all the wrong reasons. The worst part is that they don’t even read or answer the appeals. I literally sent 10 over the course of a year, because I had so much information stored for my health journey. Did they care? Nope.
Fuck Reddit I hope that shithole is destroyed soon.
On second thought, let’s not go to Reddit. It is a silly place.
*A fascist place.
I got perma’d a month ago for posting links to .edu domains showing proof that UV light damages your eyes.
Some guy was claiming “the CDC/FDA doesn’t know shit because I used to start into the sun to spite the people who told me not to.”
I got a redditcares and then a site wide shadowban.
No action on the appeal.
I decided not to make another account and to try quitting the internet, when that failed I decided to go to Lemmy instead of reddit again.
When Lemmy gets shitty like that hopeful I’ll be ready to disconnect for good.
reddit now hates people dropping links, they ban people for that now.
I guess it messes with the LLM training
Since you seem to know about light and eyes: Huberman often suggests direct bright sunlight into the eyes. Is that wrong or is there a trade-off between advantages and damage? (Although, direct in Hubermans sense means unfiltered and not looking into the sun, but possibly close to it from my understanding, so is that the important difference?)
I know that he’s not always right, but eyes seem to be his special/original area of expertise. Also, I didn’t follow him much for quite some time, but I remember the sunlight into eyes.
I don’t really know about light and eyes, I just know that UV radiation is bad for you and I know that academic quality evidence for this is abundant.
It was easy to find multiple .edu and .gov sources that explicitly state that UV is harmful to your vision.
When people say things like “bright direct sunlight to the eyes” to me it reads as “touching grass is beneficial.”
You don’t need to look at or near the sun, there’s plenty of sunlight bouncing around on a sunny day. You also don’t need to expose yourself to UV so sunscreen is still a good idea.
Thanks for the explanation.
When I got permabanned on Reddit I took the opportunity to step away from scrolling. I got a lot accomplished and my mental heath improved. Since Lemmy is slow, it works well, I can’t spend hours here. Unfortunately my baser instincts took over and I find myself scrolling the news app for hours instead…
Yeah the API changes were a good excuse for me to re-evaluate my Reddit and internet habits. I’ve found Lemmy and Mastadon refreshing, and honestly I love the vibes of folks on Mastadon since folks are way less doom and gloom than some of the folks here on Lemmy.
Since abandoning Reddit, I’ve picked up running and biking, gotten back into model railroading and started reading books again. I tried getting back into drawing but that petered out with some disruptions in routine due to travel before I’d fully got drawing integrated into my daily life again. Basically I think I’ve become a better version of myself since leaving Reddit (and honestly a bunch of that was more to do with me than Reddit)
Yeah I definitely feel better now that I’m not looking at reddit.
Still doom scrolling on Lemmy but like you said it’s slow and imo it’s a bit less hyperbolic.
I feel like you can have actual conversation and exchange ideas here as opposed to the reddit dunk off.
hoping Digg 2.0 is something of value
Is Lemmy Digg 3.0 or Slashdot 4.0 (i.e. Slashdot →Digg→Reddit→Lemmy)
Is there a new digg or are you referring to lemmy?
Digg has been working on rebranding recently, to try and capture some of the fleeing Reddit refugees.
when lemmy gets shitty
Do you not read the modlogs? The same shit happens here.
At least you have a modlog to look at, right? But yeah, moderators will do as they please, and I won’t always agree with it. Not too bothered
But with Lemmy’s decentralized nature, you can always join a different server with less shit admins and still interact with the same people (more or less). The worst the other instance admins can do is ban you from their own servers or defederate.
It’s the same shit with a different name. Reddit is a bunch of smart people that act stupid, and lemmy is a bunch of stupid people that act smart.
Decentralization doesn’t mean shit if you have to keep jumping ship the moment someone does something you disagree with.
Give lemmy another decade and I guarantee you It’ll be a decentralized shitshow. I hope I’m wrong, but look around. It’s already happening.
what in the absolute fuck
its how facebook operates, they just want users to doomscroll the site, and dont want actual users.
Censorship and fascism.
To further clarify on the point you were making in the post, he didn’t just mean he was going in spirit. He fully intended to go, but he was prevented from going by people who knew when to tell him “no.” He even physically grabbed his driver and the steering wheel of the car in a tantrum insisting that he be taken to the Capitol instead of the White House.
Everyone should have watched the January 6th Commission hearings, but now it’s like they basically never even happened.
they sanewashed the hell out of it, plus most of them got a slap on the wrist from 1/6. i think one older lady admitted she was wrong to go 1/6, and denied her “commute sentence” because it was the right thing to do.
I wish he had actually gone. I imagine things would have been easier.
I gotta be honest, in no way do I think anything would change if he had gone. Unless he got shot by a cop (lol), he still would have been impeached, McConnell still would have declined to convict on that impeachment, Garland still would refuse to even think about prosecuting a former president, the maga crowd would still crowd around him, and dems still would have lost in '24. MAYBE the Republican talking points would sound more insane by an nigh indistinguishable amount.
Fuck Reddit
And fuck Spez
he looks like an alien.
Huh interesting that you can say the most vile shit over there as long as it’s towards the “correct” people you won’t get banned.
The same thing will happen here if we’re not vigilant. Here’s the problem:
Conservatives love trolling, and they don’t care if they break every rule to push their agenda. Progressives do not love trolling as much.
A troll is out to start a fight and to cause problems. This means that conservatives are out there in every subreddit/community trolling. One way to troll is to become an expert at reporting things. Read all comments trying to find anything that could get them banned. If trolls don’t find something that can get their targets banned, then they can join the conversation. Either trolls can pretend like they agree with them, and see if you can’t get them to say something that’s technically against the rules, or they can argue with them, and troll them just within the bounds of the rules, in the hopes that they’ll retaliate outside of the rules, so they can be reported.
Meanwhile, progressives are less likely to troll. They’re not looking for reasons to report. They’re trying to discuss the issues, not abuse the system.
And conservative moderators are going to ban people for reporting things if they detect that there is political disagreement, making it more difficult to bother reading and participating. Meanwhile normal moderators will judge based on the actual reports.
they are also known to brigade and mass report someone, plus alot of them are propaganda bots too.
i like how reddit made thier “violations” more vague, identity based hate can mean anything lol. im guessing that now includes republican promoting misinformation is protected speech. making easier for one to be banned.
reddit allows heavy astroturfing by the right, drowning out left leaning comments
Also I once received a message from a Reddit admin, and I thought their grasp on the English language was… tenuous. It wouldn’t surprise me if they offshore people to do this work, and if they don’t speak English very well, then there’s no chance for them to make great decisions about violations.
Ai moderation allows them plausible deniability, so they can ignore peoples appeals for bans, most of them. alot of thier responses are most likely AI generated too.
We don’t love trolling as much because we have actual jobs.
It’s not just a matter of time, but a matter of mental fortitude.
I’m sure anyone could find tons of content to get conservatives banned, but that requires reading conservative content.
You know, this might actually be a good use case for everyone’s least favorite tech… AI. You could find bannable content without having to wade through all of the surrounding mind numbing garbage.
I’m really looking forwards to post-AI bubble tech because its going to be really super interesting seeing all of the creative usecases for machine learning where it actually works and can do well at what its meant to do. Machine learning has been a purely academic field and the sudden crazy amounts of money being thrown around for it over the last 3 years is absolutely insane even without that context. Now there’s tons of nice tools that didn’t exist before for working with AI models and tons of new education that didn’t exist previously. Its going to get really interesting for sure!
i known someone pre-pandemic that wanted to get into AI research, i asusme machine learning before the pandemic, yea i was discussing that with him, but he has a degree in another field and i told him t just get a job in tech right off the bat, since he alot of experience in programming, wasting his time trying to get a MASTERS, and plus universities often dont allow a 2nd bachelors which hes trying to get for some reason.
I was on for 12 years, nearly a million Karma, and was banned in February, right after The Goblin met with Spez, for a comment I’d previously posted many times without an issue.
I evaded the ban for a while, but they got better and better at finding me, and banning me. It seems like once they identify you as a ban evader, they start going through the suspension protocol. First it’s 3 days, then a week, then it’s permanent.
I missed it at first, then I realized that I missed the old Reddit. The new Reddit really, really sucks. I just miss the active guitar and cat subs.
i was part of the february purge too, for REPORTING misinformation about trump. on r/tech, that gave me a temp ban, then a triggered a full multi account ban, with no explanation at all. reddit was testing thier newly deployed AI moderation in FEB.
It’s difficult to leave my niche subs, but fucking hell there’s soooo much bot content. Like, I come to lemmy and am suddenly reminded of how humans talk.
50% WAS bot content, mostly propaganda, by like 2023-2024. and then the non-propaganda bots(the one who trying to build up thier OF profiles, or link dropping service).
it seems reddit starting to unilaterally removing random posts and content on thier own now.
I missed AskHistorians for a little while when I left, but I checked back recently and it’s clear that all the interesting history questions were asked and answered years ago. All that’s left is “what if Hitler had three balls instead of one?” over and over again.
I know what you mean. Half the answers, if they even answer it all, were links to the last 2 or 3 times the question was asked.
What is “a ban evader”
ban evasion, is when either get subreddit ban, or sitewide ban, and create new multiple accounts to post in the same subs you got banned, or if you got shadow or sitewide perman ban. you used a different device and ip to get around that ban.
at first it wasnt a problem for reddit, if you avoid the subs you got banned, or if arnt a serial ban evader. now they target all your accounts if they can connect you to same person, that havent participate in the sub for a while.
Someone who has been banned, but they start a new account under a new name. Reddit prohibits that, and will ban you again.
