Conservative pundit Megyn Kelly said Thursday she could be motivated to run for president if Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) made a White House bid. Laying into the progressive lawmaker Thur…
Yeah no. Dem primaries are only “cordial” if the progressive loses, otherwise the neolibs will take their ball and play with the fascists. See: Mamdani.
I’d argue that they’d try to out-crazy one another and we’d end up with a psycho. Also, while we’ll be cordial in comparison, there’s still a lot of infighting on the Democratic side.
I’d argue that they’d try to out-crazy one another and we’d end up with a psycho
They’ve been doing that since Palin…
Also, while we’ll be cordial in comparison, there’s still a lot of infighting on the Democratic side.
There’s neoliberals shitty on everyone that doesn’t bend the knee, and progressives complaining about that and saying what neoliberals do hasnt been working for decades. Which neoliberals respond to like how maga responds to valid criticism.
But the thing is, neoliberals only get far in primaries when they have a biased DNC (state party for down ballot) keeping everyone else down.
Look at what Ken Martin did in Minnesota for a decade as chair. He has zero bias and won’t favor anyone in a primary. That almost always leads to progressives being the front runners in primaries, and then crushing in the general.
So there’ll be a billionaire funded neoliberal.or two on debate stages, and the media will keep saying they’re the front runners. But all we got a do is fucking ignore them. We’ll have a couple progressives debating the best course of action, and a crazy neoliberal calling everyone socialists like that’s a negative.
Competitive primaries increase turnout for Dems, because it makes people feel invested and gives the candidates a great reading on what Dem voters want in a candidate.
That is how Martin (and now the DNC) views primaries. Not just as a hoop they need to throw the lifeless corpse of their pick like what happened in recent Dem primaries.
The Democratic National Convention (DNC) is a series of presidential nominating conventions held every four years since 1832 by the United States Democratic Party.[a]
The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is the principal executive leadership board of the United States’s Democratic Party. According to the party charter, it has “general responsibility for the affairs of the Democratic Party between National Conventions”,[1] and particularly coordinates strategy to support Democratic Party candidates throughout the country for local, state, and national office, as well as works to establish a “party brand” and to formulate the party platform.[2] While it provides support for party candidates, it does not have direct authority over elected officials.[3]
The only reason he got chair, was he was good at getting money from billionaires.
In February of 2025, the ~400 voting members of the DNC realized how bad that strategy was, and pivoted hard left to Ken Martin. But again, they didn’t have any say in 2020, Biden named Harrison back the .
Being mad at Ken Martin in 2025, for things Jamie Harrison did…
Is like if October of 2021, you kept blaming Biden for everything trump did during his first term. Because they both hold/held the same title.
It’s not worth arguing with someone who’s sole purpose in life is too me an obtuse twat with that says nothing of value, just negativity for the sake of being edgy and anti establishment. There’s no room for logic and reasoning with this one.
Listen to the interview Jon Stewart did with him on his podcast
I haven’t heard it yet, but probably will look it up.
The guy has no direction or vision for the party.
I mean, we can look at how he ran Minnesota for a decade and the results that came with that
But the single largest thing he’s doing now, is literally the largest reinvestment into state parties ever. With extra money going to red/purple states where we can gain House seats and state government positions.
Those state parties have been running at campaign levels all year, something that was only happening in the 6 months leading up to a general the instantly shuttered the morning after the election.
It’s fucking huge. Especially considered how prior DNC was literally bankrupting the state parties and that’s the only reason republicans even had a shot in the House.
Like, I mean this sincerely and without insult, but:
The vast majority of people that think Martin and what he’s doing isn’t enough, just have no idea how bad shit really was at the DNC under Harrison and past neoliberal leadership.
Martin isn’t everything we could ask for, but he’s more than enough for what we need.
All of that is great, but he’s ignoring the biggest problem with the democratic party. It’s such a “big tent” that it lacks a cohesive vision. That’s why only strongly charismatic leaders like Obama are able to do well. Listen to the interview, I completely understand where Martin is coming from and he wants the voters to dictate the direction of the party without putting the thumb of the DNC on the scale. That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies. It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level? Hopefully it works well and certainly it can’t be worse that what was previously being done.
That interview was pretty wild. It was like he was trying to gaslight Jon the entire time. Jon would bring up a point and Martin would respond with a “yes and.” However, that “and” would be an elaborate way of saying “actually no.”
That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies
Only if you think the purpose of the party is how neoliberals weilded it for decades…
That’s not what the party should do, it’s not what its for, and a large issue with the current situation is that’s how neoliberals used it.
It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level?
Because it’s easier to run a national party correctly than a state party correctly.
Like, you’re on the right track. There’s a shit ton of offices to manage at a state level, but for the DNC they literally just need to run a fair presidential.primary once every 4 years.
No more, no less.
That’s why Ken’s giving all that money back to the state parties. There’s literally nothing it can be used for right now, so give it back to the state parties it was stolen from and who need it for midterms.
I 100% get why it seems like nothing is being done, but that’s literally because a DNC operating correctly shouldn’t have anything to do.
They shouldn’t be prostelizing policy, they shouldn’t be promoting candidates.
Any attempt to do so, will just result in eventually losing the party to neoliberals again. Because they can play the dirty game better.
It’s gonna take a while for people to get used to it. But its gonna pay off in midterms, and then obviously in the next presidential primary.
Quick edit:
Think of it like the Middle East.
The wealthy consolidated power in the DNC, because it’s easier to control a single person with massive power, the DNC chair.
Martin is undoing all that. Disseminating the “power” (money) back to all the state parties. Which even when he’s gone makes it harder for the wealthy to seize control.of the next chair.
If he kept the power (funds) and tried to weild it for good, it would be easier for a neoliberal to grab.
We gotta throw the ring into the volcano, we can’t turn into Gollum.
Great!
The more crowded the republican primary the better.
trumps going to try and run again, or name a successor. A crowded field of republicans tearing each other down will only help Dems.
We can manage a cordial primary, they only know how to campaign by saying their opponent is the devil.
Yeah no. Dem primaries are only “cordial” if the progressive loses, otherwise the neolibs will take their ball and play with the fascists. See: Mamdani.
I’d argue that they’d try to out-crazy one another and we’d end up with a psycho. Also, while we’ll be cordial in comparison, there’s still a lot of infighting on the Democratic side.
They’ve been doing that since Palin…
There’s neoliberals shitty on everyone that doesn’t bend the knee, and progressives complaining about that and saying what neoliberals do hasnt been working for decades. Which neoliberals respond to like how maga responds to valid criticism.
But the thing is, neoliberals only get far in primaries when they have a biased DNC (state party for down ballot) keeping everyone else down.
Look at what Ken Martin did in Minnesota for a decade as chair. He has zero bias and won’t favor anyone in a primary. That almost always leads to progressives being the front runners in primaries, and then crushing in the general.
So there’ll be a billionaire funded neoliberal.or two on debate stages, and the media will keep saying they’re the front runners. But all we got a do is fucking ignore them. We’ll have a couple progressives debating the best course of action, and a crazy neoliberal calling everyone socialists like that’s a negative.
Competitive primaries increase turnout for Dems, because it makes people feel invested and gives the candidates a great reading on what Dem voters want in a candidate.
That is how Martin (and now the DNC) views primaries. Not just as a hoop they need to throw the lifeless corpse of their pick like what happened in recent Dem primaries.
Last dnc was held with republicans not progressives who got locked outside to speech and protest
democrats are not going to save you just because throw vote away on them their boots are wet enough without you licking
What do you even think “DNC” is?
Like, I know there’s a huge misunderstanding here, but I’m genuinely curious what the fuck you’re even confusing with the DNC right now.
Like, it’s a national organization, you’re acting like it’s an event like Coachella…
two things referred to as dnc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Convention
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_National_Committee
was talking about the dnc the conventions
Ok, making progress.
The convention happened in August of 2024.
That was run by the DNC chair Biden appointed when he became president in 2020.
Obviously that chair fucking sucked and was a huge problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Harrison
The only reason he got chair, was he was good at getting money from billionaires.
In February of 2025, the ~400 voting members of the DNC realized how bad that strategy was, and pivoted hard left to Ken Martin. But again, they didn’t have any say in 2020, Biden named Harrison back the .
Being mad at Ken Martin in 2025, for things Jamie Harrison did…
Is like if October of 2021, you kept blaming Biden for everything trump did during his first term. Because they both hold/held the same title.
Does any of that help you understand?
It’s not worth arguing with someone who’s sole purpose in life is too me an obtuse twat with that says nothing of value, just negativity for the sake of being edgy and anti establishment. There’s no room for logic and reasoning with this one.
The new chair also sucks. Listen to the interview Jon Stewart did with him on his podcast. The guy has no direction or vision for the party.
I haven’t heard it yet, but probably will look it up.
I mean, we can look at how he ran Minnesota for a decade and the results that came with that
But the single largest thing he’s doing now, is literally the largest reinvestment into state parties ever. With extra money going to red/purple states where we can gain House seats and state government positions.
Those state parties have been running at campaign levels all year, something that was only happening in the 6 months leading up to a general the instantly shuttered the morning after the election.
It’s fucking huge. Especially considered how prior DNC was literally bankrupting the state parties and that’s the only reason republicans even had a shot in the House.
Like, I mean this sincerely and without insult, but:
The vast majority of people that think Martin and what he’s doing isn’t enough, just have no idea how bad shit really was at the DNC under Harrison and past neoliberal leadership.
Martin isn’t everything we could ask for, but he’s more than enough for what we need.
All of that is great, but he’s ignoring the biggest problem with the democratic party. It’s such a “big tent” that it lacks a cohesive vision. That’s why only strongly charismatic leaders like Obama are able to do well. Listen to the interview, I completely understand where Martin is coming from and he wants the voters to dictate the direction of the party without putting the thumb of the DNC on the scale. That’s great and all, but it also kind of throws out the entire point of the party as a platform and a sort of shorthand for a set of policies. It doesn’t surprise me at all that Martin’s vision worked at a state level, but how does it work at a national level? Hopefully it works well and certainly it can’t be worse that what was previously being done.
That interview was pretty wild. It was like he was trying to gaslight Jon the entire time. Jon would bring up a point and Martin would respond with a “yes and.” However, that “and” would be an elaborate way of saying “actually no.”
Only if you think the purpose of the party is how neoliberals weilded it for decades…
That’s not what the party should do, it’s not what its for, and a large issue with the current situation is that’s how neoliberals used it.
Because it’s easier to run a national party correctly than a state party correctly.
Like, you’re on the right track. There’s a shit ton of offices to manage at a state level, but for the DNC they literally just need to run a fair presidential.primary once every 4 years.
No more, no less.
That’s why Ken’s giving all that money back to the state parties. There’s literally nothing it can be used for right now, so give it back to the state parties it was stolen from and who need it for midterms.
I 100% get why it seems like nothing is being done, but that’s literally because a DNC operating correctly shouldn’t have anything to do.
They shouldn’t be prostelizing policy, they shouldn’t be promoting candidates.
Any attempt to do so, will just result in eventually losing the party to neoliberals again. Because they can play the dirty game better.
It’s gonna take a while for people to get used to it. But its gonna pay off in midterms, and then obviously in the next presidential primary.
Quick edit:
Think of it like the Middle East.
The wealthy consolidated power in the DNC, because it’s easier to control a single person with massive power, the DNC chair.
Martin is undoing all that. Disseminating the “power” (money) back to all the state parties. Which even when he’s gone makes it harder for the wealthy to seize control.of the next chair.
If he kept the power (funds) and tried to weild it for good, it would be easier for a neoliberal to grab.
We gotta throw the ring into the volcano, we can’t turn into Gollum.