• spez@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    I might not like what you have to say, but I’ll defend to death, your right to say it kinda shit

      • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 hours ago

        Everyone has a different definition, but yeah generally free speech in an ideal sense extends to just before you start causing what a reasonable person would concern harm to someone.

        • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
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          5 hours ago

          Fuck that. People spreading racial hate and public lies with the intention to mislead the public should be locked up.

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            4 hours ago

            I would say intent matters and while it’s impossible to truly determine it, we still have a distinction for murder/manslaughter and negligence.

            If a politician lies or hides something for personal gain, that should be illegal, but there’s so much stuff the state does where it’s best if the general public don’t know, public order would probably break down pretty quickly otherwise.

            Same with racial hate. If it’s just stating an opinion, fine, I probably don’t agree but go ahead. If you’re actively trying to harm (mentally, economically, socially or physically) that group, or inciting others to do the same, then that’s not fine.