- Flock cameras work by scanning the license plates and other identifying information about cars they see. - The use of a “private” middle man is to circumvent the 4th amendment - https://legalclarity.org/are-automatic-license-plate-readers-legal/ 
- Reolink make excellent video doorbells that can be selfhosted - Thanks, been trying on getting the ubiquiti one but its either stupid expensive or out of stock 
 
- Might be time to ditch technology. - corporate technology - My air-gapped Taiwanese IP camera, and the zoneminder Debian VM on my proxmox machine its connected to aren’t snitches. (Except to me XP) - Yeah but I’m too lazy to maintain all of that. I spend enough time working on stuff at work. 
 
 
- Oh, Ring was untrustworthy since forever… 
- So how do you opt out? - And if you can’t, what are the alternatives? - Has all the same features, without the subscription or cloud account - Seconded! 
 
- Don’t buy a ring camera, and if you own one, it’s e waste now. - Bad news, every s*** hole suburb in america’s packed with these things and the golden retriever ass white people living there probably aren’t going to be aware of this or care. - Say whatever you like about us white people, but leave golden retrievers out of this, please. 
- Agreed. If I ever do put up cameras, they are going to be stored locally 
 
 
 
- Perhaps relevant for some: https://www.pcworld.com/article/2945470/ring-lets-police-ask-for-security-videos-heres-how-to-opt-out.html 
- Does this go for Amazon’s BLINK cameras, too? They recently bricked their app unless you installed a mandatory update. 





