I am currently thinking about my own setup for photo and video backup, and was curious what other people are using as their own backup systems.
Do you use online photo hosting like Google photos? Do you use self hosted backup system / network accessed storage? How many backups do you have in total? Do you split by medium and location?
Apologies if there is such a question on lemmy already.
Photos + Videos: Immich
The backup repository: Veeam
How many: Don’t really know. 14 versions made daily?I backup to Nextcloud and then use the Memories app to access them. I’ll admit that it’s not as flashy as Google Photos but actually it almost is.
I backup with nextcloud too but never messed with memories. My next big project is organizing my photos and moving to immich.
Some interesting and technically impressive replies here. I’m painfully aware that in this context my reply will seem appallingly gauche, but… I use Amazon Photos.
I’ve got an old NAS that has all our precious photos and vids on, but Amazon Photos comes free with prime and, as the multiple firesticks we’ve got for IPTV have a screen saver that can slideshow your pictures, it means that we actually view the many thousands we’ve got on our main TVs.
What can I say - it just works, it’s convenient and accessible. I’m sure if I was a professional photographer I’d have a way different approach, but that ain’t me.
I had no idea it was free with prime. Full res backup?
I signed up for a plan over at ente.io a couple of years ago, has been smooth ever since. Great app, great sync, I don’t self-host but I believe they offer that option.
An few old internal hdds that are being used as external hdds
I RAID1 like a caveman
I raid 10 on truenas like a bitch caveman. Backups and redundancy for the win.
Raidz2 on truenas.
Nextcloud for uploading all data, then Immich reading from a shared dir
(I’ve added immich to the nextcloud group, and make it read from my space in my nextcloud data dir)
Why upload with Nextcloud instead of with Immich directly?
Because Immich only handles media, and I have more than that (Signal backups, Termux, configs, Downloads, etc.). So I can either carefully splice that, hope both uploads work and nothing is lost, or upload everything via one method and point immich to the most important directories.
In an ideal world, I could just treat my phone like any other host, including permanent remote access via sftp, full borg backups and a better/cleaner fs structure.
These look very neat, thank you.
Out of curiosity, do you selfhost at home, or via private VPS?
If at home, wouldn’t eg a fire wipe out the photos? Or do you have several backups?
Almost everything is currently at home (at my fathers home, fiber internet, a basement with enough space etc.). I use borg to backup to a Hetzner Storagebox.
I only use a VPS for IPv6 addresses with rDNS and a static IPv4 with rDNS, as backup. And the storagebox, ofc.
Though, hopefully, I’ll soon get another nice deal to have a second server at my fathers place, so I can take the current fallback server back to my home, so I can actually host all my stuff there in case I need to.
I use immich for all mobile/old jpg and video stuff.
For raw photos I use syncthing to keep a synced copy from my nas to my external drive so I can edit on the go in full speed vs network connection.
My previous laptop had two m.2 slots but current tablet only has one so I had to move the 4tb external
I had to move the 4tb external
Caution if that’s an off-the-shelf external rig: the disks in there are apparently of lower quality. Sorry to nag you if you did the right thing and got a reliable USB<->SSD adapter and a high-quality disk.
I got a usb4 adapter to put my disk in since I already had it. I think the adapter is like a qwizlib or something like that.
I got it because its like a big heatsink and no fan, good for when I go camping I didn’t want the fan sucking in dust. But I’m pretty surprised by how hot it gets, hot to the touch so not sure how good it is for the drive
rsync to an rsync.net account, serves me well
I don’t use GAFAM storage.
I barely take any photo anymore, but I use Filen.io fully encrypted cloud storage (they’re made in Germany) to keep a copy of all my files, including the occasional picture. It’s a simple copy of the files and folders on my drives. I also have local backups on external storage (two differents) that are simply encrypted and rotated on a bi-monthly basis.
For non-confidential work-in-progress I use a different cloud, Swiss this time: Infomaniak KDrive. It’s working real nice but there is no E2EE (if they wanted they could see the content of the files, unlike with Filen).
Edit: I should have mentioned both services also offer an app that can backup the photos on your phone, if you need one.
What is GAFAM?
Filen.io looks promising, thank you
You’re welcome.
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I don’t use GAFAM storage.
Without dereferencing that acronym, I’m not sure whether I’m using GAFAM storage either.
I don’t get the ‘dereferencing’ part of your question (English is not my native language) but if you are wondering whether or not you’re using them: if you use Google, Apple or Microsoft cloud you’re using a GAFAM (the F stand for Facebook which doens’t offer cloud storage). You may also be using one unknowingly by using a third party cloud provider that still uses one of them or even Amazon AWS storage, which would be the second A in GAFAM ;)
The two I use are supposedly not using gafam services and use either their own servers (for Infomaniak) or the German Hetzner (for Filen).
I did Film & TV in uni. One of the things they told me as a newbie was “keep three physical copies, two in your home and one in a different location”
So I keep three physical copies, all in my home, cause none of my friends wanted to keep my external hard-drive clearly labeled “high-res dick pics”
EDIT: Nah, but seriously, before you consider online storage, do physical. SSD if you can, they last longer.
Huh I was under the impression that SSDs don’t last as long as hard discs.
I think they need electricity to prevent bitrot? There are advanced methods of storing parity data to recover but idk how
before you consider online storage, do physical. SSD
A stashed SSD isn’t physical: it’s an on-prem digital copy. Printed sheets would be ‘physical’.
if you can, they last longer.
Comma splice, by the way.
If you can hold it, it’s physical. Just like my relationship with your mom, nerd.
Haha jk lol
I still burn DVDs as photo backups.
I keep it simple, two Exos drives in raid1 on a desktop computer facing the network. If you want to make it do other stuff it’s an easy foundation to build on. For a while I used a robocopy script to cut from my dash cam sd card’s event folder any time it was hooked up.
I have Immich running on my home server. That file system get regularly backed up to an external HDD. The photos are also rcloned to BackBlaze B2, including retention for deleted files for a bit.
I use r-sync to compress and store them on two external drives. Same with all my other personal files.
