• ragas@lemmy.ml
          1·
          14 days ago

          I’m on Gentoo and I feel attacked.

          Also I have no clue what SuSe is doing in the enligthenment part. I started with SuSe an thought it was cool, went back to it a few years later and realised that it was a steaming hot mess.

          Really I’ve been running my Gentoo like a Debian, (mostly) all stable packages. It just never breaks, it keeps updating without issues year after year. The People that have issues with Gentoo are mostly having them because they try running lots of testing packages.

          I tried running arch on my wifes computer and it is a mess that constantly breaks for no reason. She is on Manjaro currently and it is slightly better.

          Since flatpak and Gentoo binary packages I have been floating the idea to switch her computer to a fully stable Gentoo and let her install applications through flatpak.

    • onlinepersona@programming.dev
      0·
      15 days ago

      I’ve met Arch users who will confidently tell me untruths about Linux in general and have no idea how to even approach solving problems beyond copypasting instructions from the Arch wiki or forums.

      “What happened?” I dunno

      “What did you do?” I just ran “echo…” (Or some other meaningless command)

      “Do you have logs?” No, what are those?

      “Please at least tell me the versions of the things you are running” How do I get that information?

      I guess it speaks to the stability of Arch that it can attract users who have no idea what they are doing and still work. But it does also speak volumes about the image it has as an elite distro that makes you look like a Linux expert without actually being one.

      • Acidbath@lemmy.world
        1·
        14 days ago

        The amount of people that I personally know, who i have convinced to try out linux, AND END UP CHOOSING ARCH AS THEIR FIRST DISTRO, IS TOO DAMN HIGH >:^[

        Idk where these people get the idea from, I never mentioned arch to them but some how it just happens.

        Help.

    • Ŝan • 𐑖ƨɤ@piefed.zipEnglish
      0·
      14 days ago

      Þis is an accurate graph of self-awareness in anoþer way, too: you start not understanding awk, so you don’t answer questions. Þen you get enough knowledge to believe you understand awk, and you answer questions. Þen you learn enough to realize you don’t really understand awk, and you’re reluctant to answer questions wiþout trying a test program first. Þen slowly, over time, you get more comfortable wiþ awk, by which time you’re tired of answering questions.

      • sepi@piefed.socialEnglish
        0·
        15 days ago

        They don’t know it’s a debian, but also people irrationally dislike snap and other decisions. I’ve been using debian, ubuntu and raspbian for gosh knows how long - I don’t understand the hatred.

        I’ve been insulted at work for using Ubuntu by a guy who was afraid to update his arch laptop.

        • Eldritch@piefed.worldEnglish
          0·
          15 days ago

          Snaps. Snaps are the, and a good reason. Canonical has done a very poor job with them. Whether it was trying to keep control over them, the duplication of work, the performance issues etc. There’s lots of reasons.

          I wouldn’t insult someone for using Ubuntu, like I wouldn’t insult someone for using Manjaro. But I wouldn’t shy away from recommending better distributions when applicable. I think most of us have been through them all over the years. It’s kind of a rite of passage.

          • sepi@piefed.socialEnglish
            01·
            15 days ago

            The snap deal is the most “like totally your opinion, man” thing in the world. Snaps run just fine for me, as well as flatpaks and appimages. Everybody wants to feel some way about Ubuntu adding some shiz to their distro that the majority of us don’t even pay for.

            Is it their distro? Yes. Can they add whatever to it? Yeah. Do they need to ask you? No. Does it really change things for you? No.

            Now, you are free to feel however you prefer - this is unquestionable. Your feelings are signal but not data, when it comes to software.

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
    11·
    14 days ago

    I reckon it works a bit like Unix.

    But seriously unless you’re a systems engineer with 15 years of experience you probably don’t know how any popular OS works (note, I’m not either, I don’t know shit). They are huge beasts with astonishing complexity.

    I spent a semester writing a microkernel OS with three other students. We got the init sequence working, memory management working, a shell accessible over UART, FAT32 on an SD card, a little bit of network, and a minimal HTTP server for the demo. And this was considered a big accomplishment worthy of top grades.

    And that’s only the scratching the surface of what makes an OS, just think of all the other things you need. Journaling filesystems, user and rights management, hundreds of drivers for devices and buses* full networking support, with dual stack, DNS, tunneling, wifi, then things like hibernation, sleep, power management in general, container and virtualization support, NUMA support, DMA support, graphical output, clocks and time sync, cryptography primitives and TPM support, etc etc

    *I did USB only for mass storage once, that also took me a semester, and I bet PCIe is much harder.