Smith and Wesson is my health care provider. This is America!!
I don’t desperately need medical care, but my heart burns for anyone who does rn.
I received a message that my “so cheap it was basically free” plan will be 400$ a month starting in 2026. I’m going to call in on monday to tell them to cancel it.
People will die because of this as a direct result.
I’m in the same position.
I don’t desperately need medical care
Here’s the thing: you don’t get to pick when you need medical care.
Mood as someone who never thought abt breaking a bone. I broke my collarbone this month and now owe $600 in medical expenses. I was barely keeping up with my monthly premium bill at $60. So yeah my insurance is going from $60 to $160 with the removal of the advanced tax credits to my plan, I have no idea what to do except not break another bone and cancel my plan.
Isn’t this why the US government is shut down? To avoid this specific thing?
It’s shut down to bring attention to this and demand extended subsidies that prevent this kind of thing. The shut down is a bargaining chip, not a solution.
It’s not called Obamacare, it’s called the affordable care act and every time a media outlet does this it hurts the program that helps millions of people.
Obama care and aca is the same thing. Maybe it confuses people but how does calling it Obama care make it sound bad? For me Obama care sounds like a compliment to Obama, like he tried to do something good even though it was gutted by Republicans. That $500-1000 fine for not having insurance really pissed me off though. I worked overtime to make 30k annually and wasn’t offered health care but also did not qualify for affordable insurance
Remember when Obama wore a tan suit and Republicans were ready to burn the white house down? That’s why. For a minority of Americans they think Obama was the anti-Christ. That’s why.
Leave aside how flawed the bill was, but call it what is is: the affordable care act.
Do you have any idea how ‘Obama care’ started? Because it wasn’t his idea, it was Romney-care first. Kicker here is that Romney-care was spawned by the Heritage Foundation. The ones responsible for Project 2025.
You draw whatever conclusions you want from that.
I didn’t know that. I don’t remember specifics anymore, I remember the aca was revised over and over before it was approved. Should have been called the pos act
The Nazi party uses Obamacare as a boogeyman scare tactic fueled by racism and a desire to split the population more.
Its better to remind anyone using Obamacare that it in fact, Romney Care.
Ya the penalty was such a slap in the face. Health tax for being healthy. Helped to pay for these fat MAGAs who probably would have succumbed to diabetes by now.
No, it was meant to feed the fund like safe drivers do for liability insurance. Leaving only sick/older adults in (like only bad drivers) means that pay outs for claims would have to drain the fund. But you go on thinking you’ll be healthy for the rest of your life.
The social contract means something.
I’ve got millions of dollars in taxes paid and I’m living in poverty with no access to medical or food resources lol. Social contract deez. They are using the constitution as toilet paper and you’re telling me about a social contract with a insurance company after paying in 20 years to the actual social contract that’s been disposed of for tax cuts on private jets. Jesus Christ man get a grip. Glazing the insurance industry for wut?
Yea I pay the social security and Medicare taxes. I didn’t make a social contract with a fucking insurance company. Free Luigi.
Your ignoring how it is for profit by private insurance companies.
Yeah, we should have gotten a single-payer or government-administered system that no one could have (except maybe the Amish) opted out of. That way, middle-man costs could have been accounted for and the millionaire CEOs shut out more easily. Congress sold us out to serve the UHC and other masters.
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That’s the point.
The Affordable Care Act “enrolleee sees premium spike over 300% as sign-up period begins: ‘This will devastate us.’”
-You’re right, that does sound nicer
/s
I’ve used the program for both market insurance and medicaid and beside the expanded medicaid I consider the program a failure from inception. -Insurance doesn’t have to pay if they refuse to acknowledge a person’s claims which renders all other benefits a moot point.
Expanded medicaid was the point, we were supposed to have single-payer and mandated insurance with ACA, and then Republicans stripped those out, which hobbled the program and took away the main advantages. It’s worth revisiting this because this is how 32/33 of the most developed nations on earth do it, surely there’s something worth salvaging and trying again on.
Quick edit just to add, during the first year of ACA, I had to get it due to the mandate even tho I was healthy and young. My lung spontaneously collapsed that year, and I had to have $330,000 worth of surgeries. I paid $19 for a medication that was optional, otherwise I saw no bill. The program can work.
then Republicans stripped those out
when the democrats had control of the house and senate? -That’s akin to the current repubs blaming the democrats for the shutdown.
-Also if it’s really about expanded medicaid then it’s not particularly related to the post. Medicaid premiums I highly doubt are going up 300%
Nor are the VA costs. Turns out the government is very good at negotiating its own costs and passing them along to the taxpayers
helps people to purchase insurance with subsidies but does not help citizens have healthcare
minimum wage is still stuck at $7.25 and any healthcare solution involving subsidies that go directly to megacorps that are actually causing the healthcare crisis while still requiring massive payouts from citizens just to have healthcare does not help at all
democrat mindset of less bad=good enough is not sufficient to tackle the healthcare needs of any country
throwing some Febreze on a pile of shit definitely does not help agree but at the end of the day no matter what do or don’t do still a pile of horseshit and bad for you
Amen.
How do you feel about the Republican’s healthcare offerings and solutions of “fuck you die in the streets?”
Do you always let the Republican’s define your standard of living?
I asked someone else’s opinion of something to gauge their views
Not sure why you decided to take a trip into fantasy play land, but have fun
What a strange and off-topic retort.
I was thinking the same, weirdo
I asked someone else’s opinion of something to gauge their views.
as i did, you. -Unless you have your own fantasy conversation going on and now you’re projecting.
So it’s a simple question, Do you always let the Republican’s define your standard of living?
For the death cult, the cruelty was always the point.
And it is a death cult
Look at their churches everyone praying to the nailed-up dying guy pleading for their Savior to come back and end the world
Christianity is sick as fuck and Christofascists are in charge
But remember the Orange Turd has a plan. Your death.
*Concepts of a plan
That’s the point. Make you poor and unable to choose. Good thing Kamala didn’t win though, we really lucked out avoiding “business as usual” bullshit.
If Kamala won, you wouldn’t be upset even though the working class is still losing.
All you’d be saying for her wet-noodle policies is “at least it’s not Trump!”
You people really need to stop pretending that Kamala’s victory would be your victory. They’re all victories for the ruling class.
All you’d be saying for her wet-noodle policies is “at least it’s not Trump!”
Yes, but we’d be stressing the point that the better of two options is the one that prevailed. The onus is on the losers to provide a better and more appealing candidate next time. It’s like natural selection.
In Canada, we chose the least-worse option. It’s not a great option, but it’s far better than the worst. We’re hoping to see more support for an even better option.
This is what will give trump another term
Exactly this right here - the perfect is the enemy of the good
People lost their minds, there is not going to be a perfect candidate, this is not a perfect world, shit is fucked up all over the place the best you can do it make it slightly less fucked up. You can’t fix everything at once and sorry the two party system is here to stay for a while it seems so suck it up and be the change you want.
Also so crazy that this vote basically hinged on a holy war that’s been going on thousands of years. They have to work it out. I’m going to vote in the interest of the people who live in the country, at present, who are hurting.
You have no principals, if you did, you’d oppose those directly in opposition of your principals.
Instead you call evil imperfect because it doesn’t harm you and yours. You’re part of the problem, you’re why the Democrats feel comfortable running a campaign to the right of GWB’s, 20 more years and you’d be voting for everything Trump is doing today and calling it imperfect.
What a weird response. Just straight up looney tunes
What’s looney tunes about having principals and not supporting those who oppose them?
Do you have something to actually say in response, or are you simply satisfied with calling it crazy?
Do you disagree that Kamala Harris was further to the right of GWB on trade? On asylum and border crosses? On energy? Calling as a “left candidate” for the “most lethal military” to big applause?
Do you disagree that the Democrats are further right than 20 years ago? The shift to bootlicking and police worshiping? Do you not see what they actually fund and vote for in between using minorites in rhetoric about human rights and equality? Did you miss how they completely moved on from roe v wade?
If you have leftist principals, you don’t support candidates who directly oppose them, just because the other candidate opposes them more. Prop up your own candidate who supports your principals even if they have no chance at winning, because it’s crucial to keep your principals in the conversation. Once they’re out of the conversation, good luck getting the masses thinking about them again.
This is too emotional - blue no matter who we’ve got to fix this shit looney tunes. Voting Blue is the start
If someone wanted to split the Blue vote their comments would read exactly as yours
I mean, you’re the moron who thinks that a candidate who supports the working class is ‘perfect.’
This is what I don’t understand. Do people not factor the consequences of giving the orange buffoon power again and the impact that choice has on their own country, economy and system of government, nevermind what is happening half a world away?
I had a super progressive friend throw her vote away because of a war happening across the globe that’s been going on for thousands of years. Kamala supported Israel and on top of that, “she’s a cop.”
Probably expected the gaza war to end the first day trump was in office too…
But no, progressives aren’t necessarily the entire answer either, as other forum members hope. Nothing against AOC or Bernie (I think they’re great). Vote by policy and solutions, not personality or affiliation.
People are tired of falling in line for a party that doesn’t support them.
It’s an easy fix, just start nominating progressive candidates.
The only issue is that upper middle class white folks will have to pay more in taxes, so they’d rather have Trump.
It’s all about the money, and money brings out the worst in people.









