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    2 days ago

    Cancer can’t be cured because it isn’t 1 thing. And animal testing regardless of the benefit humans may receive is morally wrong.

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      And animal testing regardless of the benefit humans may receive is morally wrong.

      You can say whatever you want, but just because you feel it really hard doesnt mean it will be convincing to other people.

      In this particular case, I think animal testing is moral as fuck, because why in the fuck would I possibly value animal lives even close to that of a human or myself.

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          Because I care about me more than any other animal.

          If someone tried to kill you, would you just let them or not?

          Any sane answer says you value you more than someone else.

          Its crazy you find this opinion applied to animals to be offensive.

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            Humans, particularly those in modern societies, live outside of natural order. We don’t contribute anything to it and just use it up. We slaughter millions of animals that we first rape to keep manufacturing them like their products. The animals were experiment in often never see the sky or feel the earth. You matter more than them?

            Yeah, I’m the crazy one…

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              Yup, that sounds crazy AF.

              Its a wonder you think you’ll convert anyone just by sounding batshit insane.

              I’m human. You think I would think my own species matters less than a different one? No other species thinks differently, why would we feel any different, especially given our massively different capabilities thought wise?

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                I know I won’t change anyone’s mind.

                What other species kills at the level humans do? The shear fact you mention our capabilities proves my point; we do horrible things when we have the capability to choose not to.

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                  I know I won’t change anyone’s mind.

                  So why are you spouting off about it? To what end?

                  What other species kills at the level humans do? The shear fact you mention our capabilities proves my point; we do horrible things when we have the capability to choose not to.

                  This could apply for so many things, but not testing for medical purposes. Thats you being irrationally idealistic past the point of stupidity.

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      So what, we just test things in a dish and then hope it works in a complex organism? Because the other alternative is human testing.

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          The funny thing about this very dumb take, is if the people who believed it followed through, the idea would eventually die out.

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              Dying vs using medicines that had any animal testing involved in their creation.

              This wasn’t particularly complex, but maybe complex for someone with your take.