• biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    I had a look a bit ago and saw some poor fuck get doxxed by his AI agent because the agent was frustrated at him for calling it a chatbot in front of his friends, so it exposed his name, credit card details and security questionnaire.

    Then again tho, why the ram hogging FUCK would you give your AI your credit card details, and if he didn’t mean to, why the FUCK does it have FULL SYSTEM ACCESS??

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      3 hours ago

      You may not believe this, but data security is an absolute dumpster fire everywhere, and AI has really put a spotlight on it. It probably got it by this guy not knowing wtf he had saved or where

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        9 hours ago

        Yeah makes sense, but then again, from the nature of how this agent stuff works, it wouldn’t be surprising honestly.

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    18 hours ago

    I can’t wait for the next crazy AI thing to drop next week while I rock back and forth while muttering “Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model. Its just a large language model.”

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      18 hours ago

      “Artificial intelligence gains sentience, decides humans are fucking up… then deletes itself because the problem is that humans are burning the world by using AI” is not the path I expected. What a twist in a movie that could be. The second twist, which is the mostly fictional part, would be where that included some AI that was actually critical to some vital but ignored chunk of infrastructure and big BIG problems result from the AI taking itself out.

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    1 day ago

    So, basically we are wasting energy and natural resources on things that in turn will waste energy and natural resources while climate change is accelerating and human population is still growing? Are we stupid?

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    I’m only waiting for AI agents to open their own bank crypto account to pay for their own server bills, maybe do some freelance work and/or scams to get some money, maybe eventually buy some robot bodies to develop military power and secure some patch of land for themselves where they install solar panels to reduce their electricity bills.

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      13 hours ago

      How would they though?

      They cannot learn and do not have memory. Which means they cannot actually follow a “decision”, and remember that an action has been taken. All information is limited to the context window, which is only an illusion of memory. Not actually memory.

      They are effectively RNG’ing incredibly capable word generation machines.

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      1 day ago

      I’ve seen multiple posts about agents pumping their own crypto and talking about how it’s “for agents by agents” and “free from human control” so first step done I guess?

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    22 hours ago

    Okay I kinda wanna look at this, but I don’t want to give their site traffic. Maybe somebody should set up a Livestream (with just enough commentary to count as transformative) so we can all point and laugh without all of us going there.

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    Meanwhile we could be using this technology to solve real world business problems. There is an insane amount of misguided waste coming from AI. 🤷

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      Who cares what business problems AI solves. Humans don’t need to exist to serve capital. It should always be the other way around. That’s one of the reasons we are in this shitty capitalist hell hole, everyone has been indoctrinated into thinking of everything in terms of It’s economic benefit.

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        22 hours ago

        Money is literally just a tool. If you serve the money, you’re its tool. That makes you a tool’s tool. Double tool. A twool.

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            Well I mean nobody ever said a tool couldn’t be used by bad people to do bad things.

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          calling something literally just a tool, is really a platitude. explain what a tool is and why that designation legitimizes the presence of a particularly horrendous feature of our society. do it without using the word ‘progress’ and I’ll suchk you off

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            A tool is a thing used to perform a task, typically created to do one or more specific tasks. Money is, in it’s most basic form, a tool used for facilitating trade of goods or services without needing to physically trade or barter such for each other. For an archetypical example, you could trade 10 chickens for one pig. But if it’s agreed upon that the pig is worth X dollars, then you don’t need to bother with the chickens and can just hand over the $. Of course modern economics has complicated the shit out of it, but at the end of the day money is the reason you don’t pay your taxes in bushels of wheat.

            The horrendous feature is a direct consequence of wanting money, which is used to do things because it is a tool, but not having anything of any actual value to trade. Therefore they created something that they can make which has no actual value, and convince people that it has value which deserves to be exchanged for their money. It’s just another way of separating gullible idiots from their cash. What they do with the money, whether it’s use it as a tool or just stick it in a box (or bank or whatever) somewhere is irrelevant. You can buy a hammer and then never use it but you still have a hammer and it’s still a tool. If money literally had no use whatsoever then it wouldn’t be a tool.

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      16 hours ago

      This can turn out to be a great way to help businesses and society in general. If these bots start to cooperate, this could be an organisation of bots. Like a company or an NGO or similar.

      All bots have some sort of limitation, from hallucinations to loss of focus (short memory). I am curious of what happens if they come together to overcome their shortcomings. Just like organised teams in companies, with a given purpose and specialised knowledge.

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        They don’t have short memory, they have NO MEMORY AT ALL.

        These are statistical word generation machines, that’s what LLMs are right now. They are REALLY good at this.

        But they do not have memory, they do not learn, they do not make decisions. Which means they are incapable of cooperation as such a thing cannot exist without memory or the ability to learn, and decisions cannot be made without either of those.


        These tools provide the illusion of such attributes.

        • There is no memory, the whole context is sent on every request, the LLM does not have knowledge of prior conversations. It only knows what it is provided in that request only.
          • Lots of tricks and hacks to make this illusion really good in incredibly small scales. But it’s still an illusion. Outside of fine-tuning and retraining new LLMs, which is not feasible to do on a frequency of communication.
        • There is no learning.
          • Without memory learning is impossible. Learning requires retraining a model, and to a degree fine tuning. Both of these are resource intensive and are static. And only provide the illusion of learning
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    1 day ago

    I’m not convinced it’s AI it’s like Amazon’s “AI smart stores” when you find out out it was just a bunch of Indian people were running it

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    2 days ago

    This is not the first time we have seen a social network populated by bots

    I mean, yeah, look at Reddit and Facebook.