So much focus on the idea that the ICE crackdown is a distraction from the Epstein files makes me wonder if it isn’t the other way around-get people to focus on the idea of a cover up that they don’t resist a fascist takeover as effectively as they otherwise might.

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    You think too unilaterally.

    Everything is a distraction for everything else. The entire Project 2025 strategy, summed up perfectly by that tramp-looking lardass Steve Bannon, is to “flood the zone” - that is, coming up with such a volume of such outrageous shit constantly, relentlessly, that nobody has time to follow up on anything.

    When the media latches on Epstein too much, suddenly it’s war on Venezuela. When Venezuela raises too many questions, oops: now it’s murders in Minneapolis. When Minneapolis becomes too hot, back to Epstein.
    Etc etc.
    Ad nauseam.

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      Oops, seems like Trump is going to steal 10 billion dollars from United States by suing the IRS.

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      There is ALWAYS too much crapvgoing on. and the news changes focus every time anything even begins to feel remotely stale.

      Meaning, it’s not just Republicans who are part of the problem. Sensationalist news plays right into their hands.

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      Ngl, Trump sticking his finger into countless little girls vaginas to measure depth and tightness to determine auction value is pretty fucking distracting.

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    pretty sure those files would uncover a LOT of bad shit. rape, murder, human trafficking etc etc from essentially the ‘elite’ all across the globe. FFS they threw kids bodies into lakes, and that’s only what they released. there is probably torture, forced druggings, executions, decapitations etc etc etc… I’d bet the things they do make isis look tame.

    everything is a serious issue, and they are using each thing to distract from each other. flood you with info so you can’t keep track of anything.

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    I am not USian. I live in one of the countries that the United States recently bombed (figure which). I sincerely ask USians: Is what is in those papers really much worse than everything the administration is already doing and is going to do to you and all the world?

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      In a sane world, any one of the atrocities would be enough to put a stop to these people.

      In a realistic world, shining a light on all these different atrocities would be sufficient to convince enough people to protest/threaten the power of the spineless patricians who refuse to convict and remove the fascists from power. For example if Billy Bob the redneck says “I’m fine with kidnapping brown people but fiddling kids is too far!” then Epstein might convince him to support impeachment/removal.

      In the current clown world we live in, nothing that the fascists say or do will un-brainwash their base, and somehow that’s enough to prevent everyone else from making a cohesive stand against the evil.

      So to answer your question: no, it’s not worse. It’s a desperate attempt to make something start tipping the scale back toward liberty and peace.

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    Welcome to Trump’s ‘flooding the zone with shit’ strategy.

    Not invented by, but brought to your attention by Steve Bannon. Trump’s advisor in the 2016 campaign. He understood very clearly that winning elections don’t happen by winning from the opposition, but by winning in the voting booth. His strategy was particularly aimed at the media. Where there is one channel that just continues a stream of populist propaganda in fox, while flooding the media landscape with scandals, lies, distractions, outrage, conspiracy, fantasies, etc. He created a safe haven for conservatives, whilst keeping the general left extremely busy.

    Everything that has happened is a distraction from establishing a fascist state. Everything is theatre, everything is meant for tv. Nobody cares about the real life consequences, as long as the theatre keeps people engaged, enraged and not looking behind the screens.

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    I don’t think that’s the case. I think this is all connected to the FACT that israel is a hostile foreign power who is literally milking America dry. When Americans ask for the social safety nets we pay for Israelis to have were told it’s “Marxism”

    We the American taxpayers

    pay for Israeli citizens to get free universal healthcare, a $400 payment per child per month until they are18 and free college and a blank check for war and genocide.

    Don’t worry we get a lot out of it because they are our “friends”. Such good friends in fact that they funded Epstein and ghisline to run a child sex trafficking ring to blackmail our politicians. That’s totally something a friend would do not a hostile foreign power that wants to bleed us dry for their imperial ambitions. You mad? You should be.

    The IDF is training ICE

    This technology was developed by palantir to assist Israel with their settler colonialist genocide target Palestinians, journalists and children

    Our politicians are still being blackmailed by Israeli intelligence because Epstein and Ghisline were Mossad

    Washington is literally occupied by Israeli assets

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/retired-green-beret-whistleblower-claims-ice-trains-israel-bring-apartheid-tactics-us-1769427

    https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/palantir-allegedly-enables-israels-ai-targeting-amid-israels-war-in-gaza-raising-concerns-over-war-crimes/

    https://www.democracynow.org/2025/11/12/epstein_israel

    https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/75-democrats-express-gratitude-to-ice-in-antisemitism-vote-amid-la-riots/ar-AA1GoYn7

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    Worth a quick watch. https://youtu.be/W395tLM6e24

    Sorry for all the anti AI people but here’s a summary.

    The video discusses investigative journalist Whitney Webb’s perspective on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal. Rather than treating Epstein’s crimes as an isolated criminal case, the video frames them in a broader context involving entanglements of national security interests, intelligence operations, and powerful networks. It highlights claims that key aspects of the Epstein story have been overlooked or obscured in mainstream coverage, and suggests that Webb has identified new or under-reported elements (“the last clue”) that shed additional light on connections between Epstein and broader systems of influence.

    More indepth summary shittily formatted;

    spoiler...

    The video argues that the Epstein scandal isn’t just a sex-trafficking criminal case — it is part of a broader system of elite power structures that includes intelligence agencies, financial networks, and geopolitical interests. Public focus on the sexual abuse alone, according to Webb, has been used to contain attention and protect deeper connections and operations that implicate powerful actors. � YouTube 🧠 Key Points Broken Down

    1. Not Just a Crime Story — A Managed Narrative Webb’s argument reframes Epstein’s life and death as part of a managed narrative, where the public discussion is narrowed to a familiar sex-trafficking scandal. This, she suggests, is done deliberately to keep deeper questions about financial crimes, intelligence ties, and power networks off the public agenda. � YouTube
    2. Behind the Scenes: Intelligence and Power The video highlights claims that Epstein’s connections with intelligence agencies — particularly through legal deals and informant roles — may have given him protection and leverage that helped him evade deeper scrutiny. Webb has previously documented how intelligence interests and elite protection can operate to contain scandals. � Before It’s News
    3. “Last Clue” — What’s Being Suggested The “last clue” in the video’s title points to recent newly released documentation and analysis suggesting that Epstein’s operations and associations go beyond what has been publicly discussed — including financial flows, arms and drugs trafficking, and influence operations — though these points are mostly alluded to through broader commentary rather than specific named evidence in the video itself. � tapnewswire.com
    4. Focus on Secrecy and Containment Webb emphasizes that the real story isn’t being told and that authorities and powerful interests benefit from keeping the public’s attention constrained. This shapes a narrative in which justice is selective and systemic accountability is avoided. � YouTube 🧩 Context from Related Discussion While the video focuses on Webb’s recent comments, her broader body of work (including books like One Nation Under Blackmail) consistently links the Epstein network with: organized crime and Western intelligence cooperation, elite protection mechanisms across decades, and strategic containment of damaging information. � MY GREAT AWAKENING 📌 Summary In essence, the video asserts: The Epstein saga is more than a sexual abuse scandal; it’s a controlled narrative. � YouTube Powerful interests may deliberately limit and frame public discourse to prevent exposure of deeper connections. � YouTube The “last clue” refers to insights about how these elite networks operate behind the scenes — beyond the mainstream framing focused solely on trafficking. �
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      The overwhelming narrative has been “this (ICE raids, other Trump administration fuckery) is a distraction from the Epstein files!” Hence “if.”