The winning message for a Democrat:
I will be your revenge. I will burn the Republican’s criminal empire to the ground. It won’t undo their crimes, but I will make them suffer.
The winning message for a Democrat:
I will be your revenge. I will burn the Republican’s criminal empire to the ground. It won’t undo their crimes, but I will make them suffer.
Precisely. We were all hyped up hoping for change, and this would have been a massive one. Instead we got 8 more years of war, RomneyCare with no public option, and continued expansion of executive overreach including extrajudicial killings. Such a disappointing continuation of the status quo, and there are blue maga out there who pretend like it was the greatest presidency of our lifetimes for some reason.
As a older millennial, I think it actually was the greatest presidency of my lifetime… As fucked as that is. Maybe Clinton was better but I was too young to have been paying attention.
I think they’re going for saying it like it’s a big accomplishment rather than a sign of how terrible our presidents have been. Yeah he cleared the bar but it’s so low and it was barely cleared so is it really that much of a brag
The first Clinton presidency was the last time I voted for president because I voted for him and about a year in thought, ‘how the fuck is this guy not a republican?’ exactly like I did once Obama took over.
And if you’re expecting that things would change with just a President then you’re one of the George Carlin Americans too.
Dude, I’m not saying that Obama was a progressive stalwart but if you’re going to complain about RomenyCare+ being the only option without a public option then you need to read up on how that was thwarted by moderate Democrats. You want there to not be a repeat then you’ve got to get your ass up and moving in the primaries to get these “moderate” neoliberal conservatives out of the party.
Ain’t no point in a merciless Progressive President if you’ve got your party stabbing you in the back every change they get.
I wish Carlin were still alive, but no I don’t expect one person to be able to move a mountain. It takes a whole admin to do that. Many of whom the president can appoint, but still.
I know all about what happened with RomneyCare. Biden gave away the public option before they even started negotiating. He literally just gave it away like the absolute turd that he is.
I also agree with voting vociferously in the primaries, but my point is that maybe taking over the Dems is a lost cause and more trouble than it’s worth. Just let them become the corporate party with Repugs, and form a new progressive/populist party instead. It would be a whole lot easier to build from the ground up.
Whatever the new progressive party is named, it should have only two goals…
1: Eradicate the Trump Regime. 2: Ditch the First Past the Post election system, switch the whole nation to ranked choice and direct voting.
American politics have been inbred by a horrid voting system.
Yeah… if Obama isn’t the greatest president of my lifetime (I was born during Reagan), then who was?
touché
Being the tallest kid in kindergarten doesn’t make you eligible for the NBA
It was the greatest Presidency of our lifetimes. Think about the others since Nixon…
This is a sad truth, you’re right.
Yeah, it sucks. It started out so good, everyone was filled with hope. Like yeah the country was in a dark period but we were gonna start to work our way out of it.
I didn’t think Obama was going to deliver a communist utopia, but I did think he was going to show people that the path to the right ways (clean energy, affordable and accessible healthcare) were possible and not that painful to start down the path of.
And it all got watered down, including the man himself, into neoliberal trash, as you enumerated above. It was certainly the biggest let-down presidency of our lifetimes, which is why it feels awful compared to the others (well, except Trump). It was supposed to finally be one for us.
Now, we just know that we best start believing in Squid Games; we’re in one! 🏴☠️ 🦑
Admit it, you just hate him cause of the tan suit and Dijon mustard.
Were you expecting a black man, surrounded by a historical establishment he had to fight his way into, to just get up ended cause he wanted to? He was badgered from all fronts, included by fools who talk like you.
I hoped for change, wanted him to be better, but was proven wrong. Obama was yet another milquetoast democrat.
One of the Obama quotes that sums him up pretty well is, “Tell me what we’re doing and I’ll sell it”.
BUT, because of this countries history and a lot of undealt with racism, it was important for us all to have a black president and it was important that he do well. And Obama did above average, even if I wanted a lot more out of him, after he strung us along with “hope and Change”. Obamacare alone sealed his legacy. His term was an important step toward universal civil rights. I dont know about you, but I like civil rights and human rights for all. Its one of the #1 things I care about. The universality of rights is important no matter who you are–even to your white male right winger-- equal protection is something they need and should value.
Never enough with y’all considering context. Y’all just want another cis white het with perfect views. He did a lot with what he was given.
Not sure who you’re referring to here, I wanted the first black president to represent a meaningful departure from the status quo. Of course, that was how Obama attained such success so rapidly, by staunchly defending it. Which leads us back to the original post in this thread - he wasn’t willing to “look backward” and prosecute the egregious crimes of his predecessors. Just “looked forward” to bailing out Wall Street, and personally ensuring they got extra money for executive bonuses.
Still, I’m curious to know more about your perspective. What are some of the things you view as Obama’s greatest accomplishments? Do you wish he had done anything differently or better?
Yeah, this unfortunately. Obama was overated
I dunno. Compared to every other president we’ve had since Kennedy, he’s about the best we’ve ever had for about a generation. I mean, he did get Osama. I mean, yeah, he wasn’t a “get us to the moon” or a “defeating Hitler” president, but he was good for what he accomplished. Yeah, ObamaCare should have been better, but compare it with the market beforehand: hhhuuugggeee Medicaid expansion, coverage for pre-existing conditions, and a simple, easy-to-use market. It could have been Medicare for All, yes. But Republicans, Big Donors, and the corporate Dems would never have gone along with it.
Wow. I would say that measured in an absolute or direct sense (and not compared to or relative to their peers at the time), Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, H.W, Bush, and Clinton were all more “progressive” and less beholden to their corporate masters than was Obama the fraud. Perhaps you could say that about any politician from the 70s, 80s, or 90s compared to any from 2008 - 2016. The Obama revisionism is just so sad.