The winning message for a Democrat:

I will be your revenge. I will burn the Republican’s criminal empire to the ground. It won’t undo their crimes, but I will make them suffer.

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    Shapiro is bought and paid for by Israel. He cant possibly win an election the presidency, for starters, and even if he could win he’d be working for a country thats not ours, that wants America isolated from its military allies so it can act unconstrained by consensus. Shapiro would be the death of the democratic party for good.

    To add to his lack of qualifications, he’s new to politics. He’s in his first term as a governor. He doesnt even know how national politics works, and he hasnt championed anything notable. He got a budget that added school breakfasts, and increased funding for state police. And thats about it. Thats not a leader for our times. Its insulting to see his name brought up as a candidate, yet again.

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    Anyone that runs on executing the current administration for treason gets my vote

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    Articles and posts like this truly reveal the oblivious bubble people live in where they still haven’t come to terms how much their federal government has been corroded.

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    What they are describing is not a Democratic president. It’s an independent candidate running on the Democratic ticket.

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      Yeah, that’s the only way to elect a progressive.

      Unfortunately that won’t happen until the US becomes a democracy. The current voting system is designed to prevent popular or progressive candidates from winning.

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        Shapiro is not a progressive-- by what facts would you claim that he is? He advertises himself as someone who brings republicans and dems together on issues. He’s as centrist as they come.

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    Spoiler: They won’t. They will “compromise” and try to “mend wounds”. Democrats are just “Diet Republican” flavored politics.

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      Democrats are pacifiers for us. US: “Hey we want free healthcare!” Democrats, “Shh shh shh, there, there, it’s okay sweetheart.” They serve the same billionaire masters as Republicans.

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    Not sure what the article says because, paywall. But, given the thumbnail, I just want to make sure people understand that Shapiro represents the entire opposite of Democrats actually doing anything about fascism. Shapiro is a fascist collaborator, both in terms of his work for Israel, and domestic policy. He’s essentially a Republican, that is to say, a fascist.

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    There needs to be a revolution within the Democratic party, today. Not in a week or a month, today. We’re not able to oppose fascism because the fascists are fucking clever or strong or smart: We’re not able to oppose fascism because the Democratic leadership dont’ want to.

    If we don’t replace Schumers and Jeffereies, its cooked. It wont matter. No circle jerking about November going to help. We need war-time leadership in the DNC now. Alas, Babylon. They need to start acting like a government in absentia, because they already are one.

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    I just read that Kamala Harris might be in the 2028 election. The very same one that couldn’t mention anything bad with the US because ir might upset someone. The very same one that sidelined her popular VP pick to campaign with republicans and celebrities. The very same one that never won a presidential primary.

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        The point of centrists is to lose to republicans. They play the culture war game to keep people fighting over pointless crap while the wealthy rob our country blind.

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    Looking Forward, Not Backward was the original sin of the Obama administration.

    Precisely. We were all hyped up hoping for change, and this would have been a massive one. Instead we got 8 more years of war, RomneyCare with no public option, and continued expansion of executive overreach including extrajudicial killings. Such a disappointing continuation of the status quo, and there are blue maga out there who pretend like it was the greatest presidency of our lifetimes for some reason.

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      there are blue maga out there who pretend like it was the greatest presidency of our lifetimes for some reason.

      As a older millennial, I think it actually was the greatest presidency of my lifetime… As fucked as that is. Maybe Clinton was better but I was too young to have been paying attention.

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        I think they’re going for saying it like it’s a big accomplishment rather than a sign of how terrible our presidents have been. Yeah he cleared the bar but it’s so low and it was barely cleared so is it really that much of a brag

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        The first Clinton presidency was the last time I voted for president because I voted for him and about a year in thought, ‘how the fuck is this guy not a republican?’ exactly like I did once Obama took over.

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      And if you’re expecting that things would change with just a President then you’re one of the George Carlin Americans too.

      Dude, I’m not saying that Obama was a progressive stalwart but if you’re going to complain about RomenyCare+ being the only option without a public option then you need to read up on how that was thwarted by moderate Democrats. You want there to not be a repeat then you’ve got to get your ass up and moving in the primaries to get these “moderate” neoliberal conservatives out of the party.

      Ain’t no point in a merciless Progressive President if you’ve got your party stabbing you in the back every change they get.

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        I wish Carlin were still alive, but no I don’t expect one person to be able to move a mountain. It takes a whole admin to do that. Many of whom the president can appoint, but still.

        I know all about what happened with RomneyCare. Biden gave away the public option before they even started negotiating. He literally just gave it away like the absolute turd that he is.

        I also agree with voting vociferously in the primaries, but my point is that maybe taking over the Dems is a lost cause and more trouble than it’s worth. Just let them become the corporate party with Repugs, and form a new progressive/populist party instead. It would be a whole lot easier to build from the ground up.

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      Yeah… if Obama isn’t the greatest president of my lifetime (I was born during Reagan), then who was?

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      It was the greatest Presidency of our lifetimes. Think about the others since Nixon…

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          Yeah, it sucks. It started out so good, everyone was filled with hope. Like yeah the country was in a dark period but we were gonna start to work our way out of it.

          I didn’t think Obama was going to deliver a communist utopia, but I did think he was going to show people that the path to the right ways (clean energy, affordable and accessible healthcare) were possible and not that painful to start down the path of.

          And it all got watered down, including the man himself, into neoliberal trash, as you enumerated above. It was certainly the biggest let-down presidency of our lifetimes, which is why it feels awful compared to the others (well, except Trump). It was supposed to finally be one for us.

          Now, we just know that we best start believing in Squid Games; we’re in one! 🏴‍☠️ 🦑

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      Were you expecting a black man, surrounded by a historical establishment he had to fight his way into, to just get up ended cause he wanted to? He was badgered from all fronts, included by fools who talk like you.

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        I hoped for change, wanted him to be better, but was proven wrong. Obama was yet another milquetoast democrat.

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          Never enough with y’all considering context. Y’all just want another cis white het with perfect views. He did a lot with what he was given.

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            Not sure who you’re referring to here, I wanted the first black president to represent a meaningful departure from the status quo. Of course, that was how Obama attained such success so rapidly, by staunchly defending it. Which leads us back to the original post in this thread - he wasn’t willing to “look backward” and prosecute the egregious crimes of his predecessors. Just “looked forward” to bailing out Wall Street, and personally ensuring they got extra money for executive bonuses.

            Still, I’m curious to know more about your perspective. What are some of the things you view as Obama’s greatest accomplishments? Do you wish he had done anything differently or better?

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        I dunno. Compared to every other president we’ve had since Kennedy, he’s about the best we’ve ever had for about a generation. I mean, he did get Osama. I mean, yeah, he wasn’t a “get us to the moon” or a “defeating Hitler” president, but he was good for what he accomplished. Yeah, ObamaCare should have been better, but compare it with the market beforehand: hhhuuugggeee Medicaid expansion, coverage for pre-existing conditions, and a simple, easy-to-use market. It could have been Medicare for All, yes. But Republicans, Big Donors, and the corporate Dems would never have gone along with it.

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          Wow. I would say that measured in an absolute or direct sense (and not compared to or relative to their peers at the time), Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, H.W, Bush, and Clinton were all more “progressive” and less beholden to their corporate masters than was Obama the fraud. Perhaps you could say that about any politician from the 70s, 80s, or 90s compared to any from 2008 - 2016. The Obama revisionism is just so sad.

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    Trust me bro we will vote harder and defeat fascism bro, this time it will work bro, this democrat candidate wont shift to right for votes bro please bro, only republicans are the problem bro

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    The only way this will happen is by stealth. That is, a candidate that is mainstreem and moderate and has no history of being progressive or ethical, changes their stripes after they get elected. Any candidate who identifies themselves as somebody who will hold the GOP to account or has a history of trying to do so, will mysteriously never get anywhere near the Dem nomination no matter how popular they are (cf Bernie Sanders having the Dem nomination stolen from him both times by chicanery and backroom dealing by the corporatist Dems.

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      Also probably rich enough that he or she doesn’t really need to worry about campaign financing. The last time we had that was with FDR. The elites learned from that experience and have bankrolled and enabled FDR’s antithesis: Trump.

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    They won’t do shit. Just like always, they’re gonna waste four years maintaining the status quo then cry into their hands when the fascists take control after they’ve done nothing to address the material conditions of Americans.