Members of Kibbutz Hanita are suing the Chinese-controlled Ballet Vision fund for refusing to buy their remaining stake in an intraocular lens plant, citing losses and what it says is a Chinese government ban on new investments in Israel since the war
Eh, I heard the same thing about China, then I went there, and I heard the same thing about Iran, but everyone I talked to who’s actually been there had much more level-headed criticisms of the government than the horseshit the news makes up.
Sure, what this after they required everyone in North Korea get Dear Leader’s haircut, while also executing anybody who got his haircut?
Western news sources are not reliable when covering America’s enemies. I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.
I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.
Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.
So from this I assume you will remain ignorant forever?
Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.
For Americans maybe, that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China. I met a Russian who had the same shock upon seeing she was lied to about China and wanted to go to NK, I wouldn’t be surprised if Russians can travel somewhat freely in NK either.
I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started. Do I believe her over all the other Russians/Ukrainians/Moldavians I’ve met? Hell no. Propaganda is a helluva drug. I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.
I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started
Bizarre. I don’t know any Russians who haven’t commented on the increased propaganda and how expensive everything’s gotten. Apparently there’s more diverse brands in stores now tho lol. Do they at least mention how expensive everything is?
I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.
That’s literally my only point here. There’s people who think NK is full of mustache-twirling villains who execute you if you watch a TV show.
I have no judgement because I have no reliable data
I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place
You understand the difference here right? Not immediately dropping your pants and jerking off while grunting about how bad and evil America’s enemies are isn’t the same as withholding judgement on something you don’t have reliable data on.
North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories
I’ve never heard from a North Korean in a country where they risk prison if they don’t tell the right story, but presumably there are North Koreans telling their stories in North Korea, Jilin, and Vladivostok, that we haven’t heard.
you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)
Eh, I wouldn’t want to tie myself to a single place.
Highly doubtful. Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country. It is a pretty bleak place to exist. If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet, chances are your oppressor is doing some pretty awful things. It’s why the current American fascist regime has “humored” restricting Internet access. Same reason Iran cut off Internet access during their recent unrest where the government killed thousands of civilian protestors.
Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country.
It’s important to note that most North Koreans escape to South Korea, where it is illegal to say anything positive about North Korea, and from where they cannot leave for some number of years. So I would completely trust such accounts.
Also reports about North Korea often contradict other reports about North Korea. It’s a mess of truth, exaggeration, rumours, stuff somebody made up, and in one case a satirical news article from Japan or China that Western media took at face value.
Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country
Those accounts aren’t credible because at any time they can called a spy and imprison. Also because they include laughable claims like that there is only 1 train in North Korea, which they have to pull by hand and “In North Korea, every room has to have a portrait of the Kims. The inspector comes out of nowhere in the middle of the night and touches the portraits. If they see any dust… you can get executed.”
The same person making those claims also says their friends entire family was executed in a stadium for watching TV.
If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet
Alternatively, they’re just trying to avoid the US using the internet to feed their citizens propaganda and organize a color revolution, as they constantly do to all of there adversaries.
I continue to have no judgement on what NK is like because again, no reliable data.
Do all the countries you believe ridiculous things about happen to be enemies of the US?
You’re a dumbass. North Korea"s treatment of human life is well documented Internationally.
So is their necromancy, since tons of people declared “executed” by tabloids are later seen alive.
Eh, I heard the same thing about China, then I went there, and I heard the same thing about Iran, but everyone I talked to who’s actually been there had much more level-headed criticisms of the government than the horseshit the news makes up.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/latest/north-korea-teenagers-executed-for-watching-squid-game-as-regime-wages-war-on-k-pop/
Getting out of the country must be so insanely difficult because it’s so good there right! Who would want to escape such a paradise?
Sure, what this after they required everyone in North Korea get Dear Leader’s haircut, while also executing anybody who got his haircut?
Western news sources are not reliable when covering America’s enemies. I will develop an opinion when I talk to people who’ve traveled there, and aren’t in danger of being thrown in prison/executed if they don’t promote the state department line.
Travel to North Korea is tightly controlled by the North Korean government, you are NOT allowed to go out of the allowed areas and while you are there you are monitored at all times by the North Korean government.
So from this I assume you will remain ignorant forever?
For Americans maybe, that’s why I’ll talk to Chinese who aren’t such a risk when I return to China. I met a Russian who had the same shock upon seeing she was lied to about China and wanted to go to NK, I wouldn’t be surprised if Russians can travel somewhat freely in NK either.
I have a russian coworker that goes back every year to visit her family. She too insists that russia is awesome and it’s even better since the war started. Do I believe her over all the other Russians/Ukrainians/Moldavians I’ve met? Hell no. Propaganda is a helluva drug. I’m sure all those places aren’t as bad as American media makes them out to be, don’t get me wrong, but they’re not as peachy as their side says either.
Bizarre. I don’t know any Russians who haven’t commented on the increased propaganda and how expensive everything’s gotten. Apparently there’s more diverse brands in stores now tho lol. Do they at least mention how expensive everything is?
That’s literally my only point here. There’s people who think NK is full of mustache-twirling villains who execute you if you watch a TV show.
I have no idea why you’re so interested in making North Korea seem like a great place
I have no idea why you’d believe random Chinese who probably believes the propaganda from the Chinese government even harder than you do
By the way no comment from you on the fact that North Koreans have to escape to tell their stories? That their country is a prison?
You really are knee deep in it eh?
Last post from me, you should definitely move to China since you love it so much :)
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You understand the difference here right? Not immediately dropping your pants and jerking off while grunting about how bad and evil America’s enemies are isn’t the same as withholding judgement on something you don’t have reliable data on.
I’ve never heard from a North Korean in a country where they risk prison if they don’t tell the right story, but presumably there are North Koreans telling their stories in North Korea, Jilin, and Vladivostok, that we haven’t heard.
Eh, I wouldn’t want to tie myself to a single place.
Highly doubtful. Just read first-hand accounts from the many people that have escaped the country. It is a pretty bleak place to exist. If they literally make it illegal for their citizens to have real Internet, chances are your oppressor is doing some pretty awful things. It’s why the current American fascist regime has “humored” restricting Internet access. Same reason Iran cut off Internet access during their recent unrest where the government killed thousands of civilian protestors.
It’s important to note that most North Koreans escape to South Korea, where it is illegal to say anything positive about North Korea, and from where they cannot leave for some number of years. So I would completely trust such accounts.
Also reports about North Korea often contradict other reports about North Korea. It’s a mess of truth, exaggeration, rumours, stuff somebody made up, and in one case a satirical news article from Japan or China that Western media took at face value.
Those accounts aren’t credible because at any time they can called a spy and imprison. Also because they include laughable claims like that there is only 1 train in North Korea, which they have to pull by hand and “In North Korea, every room has to have a portrait of the Kims. The inspector comes out of nowhere in the middle of the night and touches the portraits. If they see any dust… you can get executed.”
The same person making those claims also says their friends entire family was executed in a stadium for watching TV.
Alternatively, they’re just trying to avoid the US using the internet to feed their citizens propaganda and organize a color revolution, as they constantly do to all of there adversaries.
I continue to have no judgement on what NK is like because again, no reliable data.