Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
Can’t wait for dems to retake power eventually and do absolutely nothing to prosecute these criminals. ‘We have to promote unity to heal the divide.’
If the dems were worth a damn they would be loudly shouting from the rooftops ‘when we control the levers of power you will be held accountable for violating the constitution’
What about this memo that says they can’t? It also states we can bear arms to protect ourselves from tyranny so… yea
They clearly abandoned their oaths at all levels, so that document doesn’t mean anything anymore if everybody willfully ignores it daily. At that point, it’s just ink on a paper that is just barley better than a spill.
And that means we are well within our legal rights to fight back
Does that include car bombs?
Cool. Guess what the 2nd Amendment says?
"ICE says its officers can forcibly enter homes . . . "
I’ve got a gun that says they can’t.
Tally-ho boys!
There’s been a run on grapeshot
They got more that says, “Wanna bet?”
A memo???
Ha!
Nothing of value will be lost.
-Both sides, but for different reasons.
Those bullets could have been used for fun evenings in the gun range, so there was some lost value
Oh no. Anyway…
It is legal to booty trap your own house. Unrelated, just a funny thought.
No, that’s illegal. But AFAIK in all states you can wait inside your door with a shotgun and blast anyone who breaks into your home illegally.
Better yet, you have the constitutional right to organize 30 or your neighbors to use guns to protect each other from marauding thugs.
Its not, but if you are going to Home Alone a bunch of ICE agents illegally entering your house, please record that shit. If its funny enough the jury will absolutely not convict you.
Now I want to see a version of Home Alone where it’s ICE and all the traps are as deadly as they would be in real life.
There would be piles of bodies around the McCallister house
Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
Same as it’s always been, they’re just being more brazen about it
You don’t even need the courts of your side. The Regime has directly defied court orders time and time again.
What you really need is a citizenry that’s too afraid or complicit to defend themselves.
Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
Obviously. That is the whole point of the Supreme Court. The surprising thing is that there wasn’t more public concern when Trump selected his sycophant judges.
When Trump? They’ve been letting these dudes in since Bush
They will absolutely come for the guns next. Once the population is disarmed the civil war will begin. Martial law. Police state. No privacy protections. All amendments abolished. Civil rights act abolished. Military checkpoints at all state borders. Reinstated draft. 10% inflation. 20% unemployment. Reeducation centers. Prison work camps. State takeover of media. Iron curtain. Restricted Internet.
This year. Get out while the borders are open.
Don’t got the money for that. My best option is to fight, provided the people of my state are also willing to die for a better future.
If you think they will take guns away from Americans in 2026 at any kind of scale you are very naive
Doesn’t mean they won’t try
Prisoners are profitable and will only become increasingly profitable as they start using them as slave labor, which is specifically allowed under the Constitution. Only chattle slavery was abolished. When they are no longer subject to being voted out of office there is every incentive in the world to arrest people.
So new executive order: we gotta stop all the school shootings therefore all guns are illegal. Gun owners will be required to turn in their weapons in exchange for a pennies on the dollar buyback. These weapons will then be sold by the government to who the fuck knows. This will be followed by a house to house compliance check where you either produce your receipt or submit to a warrantless search. Anyone caught with a weapon will be sent to a prison work camp making iPhones and drones. Simple as that.
Oh you want to fight back? Bueno, now you’re a terrorist. This justifies further military presence in your town and seizure of all of your assets. You will be lucky if your family isn’t required to pay upfront for your prison stay.
I am not being naive. I am being real. I am an American but I was not educated in the American school system. I understand what is happening because it has happened a thousand times to a thousand other countries. There is a standard operation of events and we are following a textbook march into dictatorship.
Do you know anything at all about the laws surrounding prison labor?
We are witnessing an administration who does not consider themselves to be bound by established laws and norms. We are watching our constitutional rights being eroded one by one in real time. Do you think he will ever say “oh man I would love to do something but it would be illegal if I did”. Who is being naive now?
All I know is that “they wouldn’t do that…” had always been answered with “yes they are”
Other than the black Panthers ain’t nobody already with guns doing anything right now.
Americans, time to exercise your second amendment is nigh.
So just to be clear. The EPA cannot make regulations despite full congressional authority to do so because that is “creating law” without a direct legislative process. But ICE, an agency that doesn’t even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?
The answer to that is, legally no. However, that doesn’t stop them from doing it illegally.
“Official acts.”
Which by DEFINITION, would not include unConstitutional behavior. No violation of the Constitution could ever be construed as an “Official Act.”
Guardrails? I think you should re-read their decision again. They gave him protection because until now even official acts didn’t necessarily protect the president. And now, it doesn’t matter what illegal thing he does as long as it’s part of an official act. ANYTHING. Because as long as it’s part of an official act they can’t even question it. And they didn’t even provide a list of what constitutes an official act.
So they literally put the president above all laws provided he can tie it back to some vague notion of an official act.
Be sure to cite that when they’re breaking down your door without a warrant because you posted a meme of Trump online
Peewee Gobbles said it not trump I’m willing to bet
The EPA cannot make regulations… But ICE, an agency that doesn’t even have real law enforcement powers, can just ignore the fourth amendment entirely because the president said so?
Today you learned the difference between creating regulations and enforcing existing regulations, congrats.
If ICE violates your 4th amendment rights shutup and enjoy your multimillion dollar lawsuit. If you aren’t entitled to said lawsuit then your rights weren’t violated.
How’s that boot taste?
I don’t think the user you responded to was defending ICE. They were bitterly pointing out how the court system is rigged and how there is no oversight to enforce the law on the executive branch.
I suggest checking a users post history before you decide to defend them.
EPA could absolutely just ignore the law when making regulations. It wouldn’t even need any congressional authority. It just makes the law and when someone sues them, the judge says “nah, it’s okay with me” and that’s it.
What exactly is the point of a judicial warrant if the executive branch can determine when they’re unnecessary?
Nothing. And they are testing the water to see how much they can do without judges. So when they start standing outside polling booths they won’t get any government pushback.
they already arnt.
Oh this is gonna be fun when it runs up against castle doctrine
Not really. Remember Wilhoit’s Law:
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
When they do it, its castle doctrine and qualified immunity and civil rights. When anyone else does it its terrorism. Your comment makes me think you haven’t fully digested the situation and still think the US is a nation of laws. If so, you are gravely mistaken.
That goes out the window when feds are attacking cops… which has already started
You misunderstand. People will enforce the Castle Doctrine long before this gets to SCOTUS.
They already are, actually. I watched a video yesterday of a guy who said what he would do with his Second Amendment if ICE kicked in the door, and of course they ran away.
Castle Doctrine the personal principle, yes. Castle doctrine the law that is upheld in court when unidentified masked men without a warrant bust into someone’s home, get shot in the face and the courts respect the law as written even when it turns out after the fact it was ICE? Well, I’ll believe it when I see it.
There’s no justice under the Robert’s court. There wasn’t any before the Robert’s court, but there isn’t any now either.
Yes. It’s not binary, but a scale that keeps sliding further and further down the savagery of an uncivilized shithole.
Time for y’all to get guns then
The time for that was Jan 7, 2020.
If someone is buying a gun today and they haven’t fired one yet, they’re kinda just a loot crate.
They are drooling at the opportunity to make their own version of Horst Wessel out of an ICE officer.
Yeah I don’t think the kirk fountain worked out as well as they’d hoped when they tried to capitalize on it.
That said, I don’t think the escalation will stop anyway, so self defense is worth it.
For anyone who will be purchasing a firearm, please, please go to a range. Practice with it. Be familiar with how it works, maintenance, and basic repairs, and store it responsibly.
At this point… go to the range daily. You’re going to be pretty shitty until you’ve had a handful of trips out there.
Especially if newer, or if you’re in your 40s+ and you suddenly recognize that you need readers - damn that really changed things for me. Tried some non-stock sights from a friend and WOW what a difference (and the truglo tfos are really, really nice fwiw)
I’m 42 with astigmatism and I can vouch for the EOTECH bs. The battery life is kinda trash but they’re great on my eyes.
Thanks, I’ll check them out!
Yup, the most likely people to get shot with a gun are the owner and the owner’s family. Gotta know what the hell you’re doing.
100%.
I’ve handled a gun from a fairly young age, taught by my grandfather, a ww2 vet. Over the years I’ve shot skeet, some shooting competitions for fun, etc.
The most dangerous people I’ve ever seen at any of those places/events were the kind of people who loved buying lots and lots of guns, especially the 2A nuts who claim its all about protecting from the tyranny of the federal government. IMO, they just wanted to feel powerful - and as a result, they were negligent and dangerous. I know one of them who shot themselves in the leg pretty recently, because they ignored the most basic rule - treat every gun as if its always loaded. Guess what? That one was! And now he has a hole in his leg.
Sorry for getting into a rant there.
Guns are horrifically dangerous and should always be treated as such.
Yup. I’m the type of person to hit 8/10 clay pigeons and complain about wasting ammo. And the most dangerous people I’ve seen at a range are the dudes with the lifted pickups on dirt tires (which have never been in the dirt). They treat gun ownership like cosplay.
These guys are also the absolute worst drivers on the road too.
They treat gun ownership like cosplay.
Damnit, you just said it perfectly in one short phrase, and I just rambled.
That’s exactly the type I’m talking about.
I’m a big fan of clay rabbits, the random hops make it so much fun!
My experience has been the polar opposite. Everyone I’ve met at ranges and competitions were very mindful and responsible people that were knowledgeable about the laws and history of the hobby. The most irresponsible gun handling I’ve ever witnessed was the one year I went to deer camp with a former coworker.
I’d say the overwhelming majority were mindful and responsible, what I commented on were the ones at those places and events that were not.
Could also be a regional thing - a few of them ive been to were in states that think the civil war was about states rights, and leave off the part about the rights being about owning people.
The one I mentioned who someone recently made an air hole in their leg is from one of those states.
Fair enough. I’ve never competed down south but having family in Georgia I’m all too familiar with the “War of Northern Aggression” types.
Probably join some sort of club for safety learning too
I thought they were using kirk for that
They tried yes. It did not work as well as they hoped.
I doubt it’s going to work any better for one of their gravy seals.
I live alone and have every gun in the house loaded.
