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inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 5 hours ago

Kristi Noem Refuses To Answer Whether ICE Disarmed Alex Pretti Before Fatally Shooting Him

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Kristi Noem Refuses To Answer Whether ICE Disarmed Alex Pretti Before Fatally Shooting Him

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inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 5 hours ago
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Kristi Noem Refuses To Answer When Reporter Grills Her On Whether ICE Disarmed Alex Pretti Before Fatally Shooting Him
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The DHS secretary also argued to the reporter that she doesn’t know of “any peaceful protester that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign."
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  • AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)@lemmy.ca
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    Surprised she refused to answer - it’s not like she’s reluctant to flat out lie most of the time.

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      Because she wants people to know that you can be shot while disarmed. That just being against them means they can kill you.

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    We literally saw it happen. Why does the media pretend that this is a reasonable answer?

    • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Because a handful of billionaires own the media companies that own all the other media companies.

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      AP https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-ice-alex-pretti-videos-861a0d8f3ee182f3b5909b3613900e2e

      NBC https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/witness-videos-cbp-killing-minnesota-man-appear-counter-trump-administ-rcna255791

      ABC https://abcnews.go.com/US/wrong-witness-court-docs-disputes-dhs-account-minneapolis/story?id=129546666

      CBS https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alex-pretti-shooting-contrast-official-accounts-videos/

    • Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
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      Because they’re a bunch of cowards that can’t be bothered with the lawsuits they’d have to fight for telling the truth, not to mention the preservation of their precious access to Jabba and his palace.

      Bunch of fucking losers.

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      Because they can say/do whatever they want and we’re just going to get distracted by the next disney movie or video game.

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    peaceful protester that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign.

    Kyle Rittenhouse? At least by their own logic.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      Most of January 6th traitors too.

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        I would rephrase that to many, far more just wielding flags, beating officers with doors etc…, but yes there were a lot of armed protestors on january 6th… and the only person that got shot was one who breached so far past where she was supposed to go that there was no rational way to prevent congress and pence etc… from getting attacked.

        Also charlottesville, covid 19 armed protests (https://everytownresearch.org/report/covid-armed-protests/), etc… bottom line there’s been a hell of a lot of right wing armed protests… and one thing they all have in common… people blatently brandishing guns didn’t get shot by cops.

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      https://www.thetrace.org/2020/03/freedom-of-speech-open-carry-demonstrations-first-amendment/

      From 5 years ago. These guys are protesting with their guns out.

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      Calvin Ball

  • crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
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    Pics and video receipts, bitch

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    She can’t answer because they did disarm, then murdered him in cold blood,with NINE fucking shots.

    They then walked away like it was a Sunday brunch and left someone else to clean their mess.

    America is now run by Nazi fucking scum.

    Americans are being gaslit repeatedly by people who align with a child rapist than their American citizens.

  • Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    Hope to see Krusty Gnome hanging around at the Hauge sooner rather than later

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      52 minutes ago

  • potatogamer@ttrpg.network
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    It’ll be fun guillotining her.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      I’ll be honest, for these assholes I’d love for them to get life sentences without parole and isolated from the rest of humanity.

      • GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world
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        Nope, thanks to the power of the pardon only permanent punishments this next time around.

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        Could you imagine the horrors one would see in whatever hole these people get thrown into if they don’t have the chemicals to upkeep their Mar-a-lago face? They are pretty fucking disgusting looking now…and that’s with trying to not look bad. I can’t even imagine.

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    The law will not punish these people

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    When are we going to learn that strongly worded letters and protests that turn us into a shooting gallery are not a winning strategy? How many good men and women need to get assassinated before we try something different, anything different?

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      Have you read any American history? This is a pattern.

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        I just don’t understand why good people are so prone to think letting the bully repeatedly punch them in the face will work. Some people won’t stop until they are stopped. Everyone knows this. There’s a lot of forms that can take, but blowing fucking whistles clearly isn’t it.

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          You’re not wrong but you’re also not volunteering to get yourself killed as well as likely hundreds if not thousands right off the bat.

          Kent State was much smaller and you still ended up with iirc like 40 deaf or injured.

          Open rebellion is a last resort because it’s guaranteed to come with a body count.

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            I’m not a will versed on that event as I would like, but it that not another example of a peaceful protest that turned into a shooting gallery?

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              Yes most of the turning points in American history have fairly high body counts.

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            Open rebellion is a terrible idea.

            We have extensive data on how to fight the US. We just choose not to use the correct tactics.

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          Are you volunteering to be the first martyr?

          • Lasherz@lemmy.worldM
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            The first, second, third, and fourth Marty positions are already taken. This trolling is no longer effective.

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              Fine, next martyr, though you knew what I meant. In any case, magical thinking (you just have to want it hard enough) has never worked. If you have suggestions for what to actually do, bring it. Anything short of actions that’ll get you killed never seem to be good enough for the complainers.

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            We’ve had dozens of martyrs already, people are dying we don’t even know about.

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              Next martyr, then. You in?

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            Position’s already taken, I’m afraid.

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      If the oligarchs start losing money Trump will be finished in a week.

      That said, I dont think Americans have the commitment to sustain a boycott.

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        Many people, likely a majority, are not in a financial or practical position to participate in a boycott or general strike. That constraint is not accidental. Considerable effort goes into structuring economic life so that such actions are difficult to sustain, and additional effort goes into convincing people they are even more powerless than they actually are.

        Even within this comment thread, some seem to overlook the range of options that exist between blowing whistles on one extreme and violent confrontation with the red hats on the other.

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          I don’t really understand if I’m honest.

          You don’t need to have a general strike as in not going to work or whatever.

          If you buy things from Amazon, stop doing that. If you visit facebook, stop doing that. If you use google or chatGPT, make better choices.

          Apparently, as few as 5% of a population can cause a revolution.

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      The 3.5% rule.

      Non violent resistance has a higher success rate when compared to violent resistance. But non violent resistance does not mean the resistance movement will be bloodless. Authoritarians will respond to both a violent and non violent movement with aggression.

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        Yeah, that “rule” is bullshit. It’s cherry picked at best.

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    She, like her boss, is incapable of speaking the truth. Pretty sure she would burst into flame if she did.

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    She knows they fucked up. She just can’t admit they fucked up, without also having to take responsibility for what they did.

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    I don’t usually lower myself to ad hominems, but goddamn demon spawn shit-for-brains. She’s more disturbing than possessed Regan MacNeil in The Exorcist.

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