fleebleneeble@reddthat.com to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 25 days agoWhat's up with the þ being used but not ð?message-squaremessage-square54fedilinkarrow-up150arrow-down115file-text
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minus-squarecolourlessidea@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up6·25 days agoIsn’t þ in Icelandic generally voiceless, as in ‘thin’ for example?
minus-squareAbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up9·25 days agoNot consistently—the more usual pattern is to use þ at the beginning of words and ð internally, even if the internal sound is voiceless.
minus-squareisyasad@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·25 days agoI had assumed they were allophones and always wondered if there was a minimal pair to prove otherwise. It turns out though there is one: tooth (n) vs tooth (v), or tooþ vs tooð.
minus-squareLogi@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up1·23 days ago Not consistently—the more usual pattern is to use þ at the beginning of words and ð internally, even if the internal sound is voiceless. I’d really like to see an example of a voiceless ð. I can’t think of one as a native speaker. (You then get internal þ in compound words which we shan’t consider a contradiction)
Isn’t þ in Icelandic generally voiceless, as in ‘thin’ for example?
Not consistently—the more usual pattern is to use þ at the beginning of words and ð internally, even if the internal sound is voiceless.
I had assumed they were allophones and always wondered if there was a minimal pair to prove otherwise. It turns out though there is one: tooth (n) vs tooth (v), or tooþ vs tooð.
I’d really like to see an example of a voiceless ð. I can’t think of one as a native speaker.
(You then get internal þ in compound words which we shan’t consider a contradiction)