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- Trump says it has been difficult to make a deal with Iran
- US fully expects Iran to retaliate, official says
- A sustained campaign carries more risk to US forces, broader Middle East
WASHINGTON, Feb 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. military is preparing for the possibility of sustained, weeks-long operations against Iran if President Donald Trump orders an attack, two U.S. officials told Reuters, in what could become a far more serious conflict than previously seen between the countries.
The disclosure by the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the planning, raises the stakes for the diplomacy underway between the United States and Iran.
U.S. and Iranian diplomats held talks in Oman last week in an effort to revive diplomacy over Tehran’s nuclear program, after Trump amassed military forces in the region, raising fears of new military action.
U.S. officials said on Friday the Pentagon was sending an additional aircraft carrier to the Middle East, adding thousands more troops along with fighter aircraft, guided-missile destroyers and other firepower capable of waging attacks and defending against them.
Trump, speaking to U.S. troops on Friday at a base in North Carolina, said it had “been difficult to make a deal” with Iran.
“Sometimes you have to have fear. That’s the only thing that really will get the situation taken care of,” Trump said.
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So MAGAs, let’s check the scoreboard:
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America First, no foreign entanglements. Didn’t realize that there were exceptions for Venezuela, Iran, Greenland, Colombia, Mexico, Canada, NATO, etc
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Lower Prices on Day 1 - Past day 365, and prices are way up, and rising fast.
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Epstein Files - We’re going to expose all those Democratic perverts…oh wait, they’re all MAGAs. Never mind, nothing to see here, move along…
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Deport Illegal Immigrant Criminals - Including innocent people, children, families, veterans, farm workers, etc. with no due process. If they can deny due process to them, they can deny it to YOU.
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Making America safer - By releasing poorly trained Death Squads into our streets, breaking out into spontaneous firing squads against innocent citizens.
So why are you still in? Is it the mind-boggling corruption? Or the constant barrage of obvious lies and gaslighting? Is it the destruction of our White House and Monuments? Is it the destruction of our influence around the world? Is it the virtuosic incompetence?
Is it the pants-shitting press conferences? Because I’ll admit that I do enjoy those myself (Listen for the audible shart at :33, and watch the lady in green’s reaction as staffers frantically clear the room, almost in a panic).
I’ll bet it’s the Pedophilia. The one thing MAGA can be counted on for, is to protect and defend pedophiles.
Thats why MAGAs are all Pedophiles.
Your America First scorecard left out yemen, syria, lebanon, gaza, the west bank, and Iran.
That we just indirectly attacked syria and gaza and the west bank and lebanon doesn’t change the fact that we attacked them through Israel.
The president is a shell of himself, the party is leading him around by the hand, betraying his America first promises. As we all knew he would, but alienating his america first fans that are not party stalwarts and supported him because he promised change and appeared to be fighting the corrupt system.
Now the president doesn’t think he needs them, as much as he thinks at all in his dotage. He is on his way out, he can’t stay awake when the cameras are rolling. The party is as arrogant as ever, expecting to rig elections just as the democrats arrogantly spite the left into supporting them because they aren’t the other guy.
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Israel first.
“potentially weeks-long”
Yeah, okay buddy pal
The President of Peace preparing for another Special Peace Operation.
He’s starting a war so he can boast about resolving yet another one. What would this be, war # 9 1/2 that he solved?
More like war 25. Each time he talks about it the number jumps up.
Just a quick military operation Morty, in and out, just a couple weeks Morty.
Probably not at all related to the Epstein Israel connection and Netanyahu’s visit, which was urgently pushed up to be weeks sooner.
Weeks huh? Pretty sure they said that about Iraq too
If you are in the military, please learn lessons from Vietnam
Didn’t most of them vote for Trump? I’m kind of hoping those that voted for this are the first wave in.
If the US military were capable of self-reflection the world would be a different place.
Unfortunately only a handful of US soldiers tends to die or be injured in these wars, so most of them will likely never see anything close to the evil they’re inflicting.
AFAIK they are pretty evenly split among the same demographic lines.
They also vote third party in huge numbers comparitively and have low voter participation.
Those that work forces, yes. But we on tje left MUST start appealing to them.
“The left must start appealing to right wingers!”
Yeah that worked great last 20 elections.
Dems arent left and I dont mean on our policies. Leftist policies are the only way to make the world better. I mean: we should stop being so strict about forgiving people and stop with the egotistical purity testing
have you? vietnam was backed by soviet union and china when these states were at peak performance, and north vietnamese government was genuinely popular. iran today is not it, who’s gonna stand up for them, fucking north korea? mullah’s regime doesn’t seem to be popular either https://gamaan.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/GAMAAN-Iran-Religion-Survey-2020-English.pdf also iranian air defences were already shown to be unable of touching american aircraft last year, and nobody’s talking about ground invasion
The US and Israel will be able to bomb them with impunity. At most Iran will be able to hit a few targets that make it through missile defense. Maybe an airplane or two if they get lucky, a navy ship maybe, a target in Israel. But that’s the extent of it, the west can bomb them, it changes nothing and only further cements their leaders in power.
Whomever is telling you the country is about to overthrow their government while still functionally at war with Israel and the US is playing you, they are rallying around the flag, and all you are doing is getting their people killed.
we’ll see in a month tops
I hope you are wrong and we won’t see, but I fear we will find out. Even if they kill the leaders, the ayatollah will be Israel’s main target, and their revolutionary guard, it’s not like that will usher in the shah to come in and relaunch his corrupt western puppet regime to sell out the country’s oil while their secret service ruthlessly suppresses dissent and tortures and murders people, and the rich leave the majority in desperate poverty, without running water and dirt floors, as was the case with the Shah.
This is not the way to create regime change, and it’s not meant to, this is for Israel to have forever war so their leaders don’t have to call elections and answer for their failure as law and order candidates to keep the country safe, not even from their own ghetto they had unlimited resources to hem in and abuse. They were too busy cancelling the judiciary to keep their country safe.
Israel has dirt on the president, the billionaires, and a critical mass of other swells and lawmakers. Not just dirt, videos of them fucking children and assorted perversions, which is not even counting whatever else they’ve accumulated. They have absolute control over the US right now as beset as they are with epstein’s revelations and the ham handed cover up of it.
They are using it, we will have forever war for the domestic politics of our supposed vassal state that now controls us, unless we can break the hold of the epstein blackmail by making it all public.
The comment you’re replying to is directed at the American military personnel. Famously, American soldiers shot and killed their commanding officers on numerous occasions during the Vietnam war, so what they’re advocating for is mutiny by execution, and effectively martyrdom.
except irgc and friends, nobody’s sticking out their neck for theocracy and ayatollah, definitely not majority of iranian population (survey from 2024, and this is before irgc did 4 srebrenicas), and i’m not even sure about allegiances of regular military (artesh, not irgc. i heard that irgc disarmed artesh just before january crackdown, not very sure about it). let alone handful of pilots and marine officers that would conduct bombardment
What did the American military do during Vietnam?
Obama made a deal.
If Iran still has a functional missile program, might hit an oil target in Saudi Arabia to restart peace negotiations.
i don’t think it would go the way you think it would go
I’m considering it from the self-interest PoV of Trump. Difficult to predict but a strike on Saudi oil prod should cause massive inflation in the US overnight. Trump has been hell bent on getting people to forget about inflation. Being as unpopular as he is I think that sort of move might get him to reconsider doing what Bibi wants again. Of course a lot of other actors would be upset by it so someone else might decide to pull the trigger. Hard to say.
i mean that saudis were somewhat restrained about airstrikes, at least publicly, but this action would cause them to not be so. even if they tried, there are extra air defences dragged to saudi for exactly this purpose; every cargo flight and every extra warship makes odds worse for iran, as more missiles would be intercepted, but even if nobody dies, shooting missiles would have diplomatic consequences. another action that would result in rising oil prices would be iran shooting ships in strait of hormuz, but this would also close access to their own single large oil terminal, and there are american warships nearby anyway, so it’s perhaps unwise decision to make today
at this point, i think that decision to strike already has been made, and they’re just stalling so that more metal can come from across the atlantic. dragging an aircraft carrier out there is not done for no reason, and the second one they want to put out there would need to have some of pre-deployment training shortened and done on the way, which is unusual and avoided because there were accidents that this training was supposed to mitigate
For US power to completely fade we need to get embroiled in a costly war that hollows our military power out. It makes sense the zionists would choose Iran for us to choke on.
another distraction from epstein.
