The rumble of 1959 Chevrolets, once the rhythmic heartbeat of Havana, is fading to the near silence of electric vehicles as the island faces its worst fuel shortage in years.

For six decades, Cuba’s roads changed little, defined by colorful vintage cars. But in recent years, Cubans increasingly adopted electric vehicles as fuel became more scarce. Now, they are helping the population grapple with a worsening fuel crisis, since the U.S. cut off oil exports from the communist-run country’s ally Venezuela and threatened to penalize other countries exporting fuel to the island.

Donald Trump’s administration has declared Cuba “an unusual and extraordinary threat” to U.S. national security.

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      It kind of made sense, for a bit, what with the whole nuclear weapons on the island thing, but it should quickly have stopped. Its entirely bullshit for the last 63 or so years

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      Island nations make the most sense to convert anyway. Import costs for consumable resources are already astronomical, why wouldn’t you switch to tech that can be completely self sufficient locally?

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        Netflix made a documentary about the European islands that prioritized switching away from oil: Islands of the Future.

        I would say with China’s help, a renewable Cuba is entirely possible.

        My only concern is the hazards introduced by hurricanes, which can be compensated for by implementing flush roof-mount solar PV systems (minimizes wind loads), underground electric power lines, subgrade geothermal loops with heat pumps, indoor substations and Battery Electric Storage System (BESS) facilities, and pumped storage hydropower utilizing Cuba’s mountain ranges. Wind is probably not a viable technology given that hurricanes can completely cover the island with crazy strong winds.

        Edit: as another commenter pointed out, tidal power would be a good alternative too. The best technology I’ve seen to utilize tidal is made by Orbital Marine Power based out of Scotland, who basically slaps 2 turbines onto a submarine to collect power. Could have offshore substations that collect that power and send it back to shore.

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        I’ve always thought this too, but Japan, and specifically Okinawa (where I live) are so reliant on fossil fuels. I figured we’d have solar panels on every home, offshore wind, and maybe even lead the innovation for tidal energy but nope.

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          Japan is a huge island in size and population compared to Cuba. And of course they kept importing oil and gas from Russia…

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            I’m not seeing how that’s relevant. It’s bigger, yeah, but still an island nation with the same import cost issue that empireOfLove2 mentioned. Does being bigger and more populous somehow cancel that out?

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        Which parts are self sufficient for Cuba? The electricity generation? They don’t have all the components to make lithium batteries.

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          There’s gotta be initial imports. Afterwards, they can be self-sufficient running these things and not be dependent on fuel imports, though.

          Once they have enough lithium in the country, it could last them for decades, if they adopt a clever recycling strategy; not unlike they did with the 1950s cars.

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          Battery recycling will take 25 years to establish, when one generation of electric vehicles needs to be remade.

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        Doesn’t Cuba punch well above its weight class when it comes to medicine, including universal free medical and dental? IIRC, hasn’t the US embargo basically fostered the development of Cuba’s own burgeoning biotech industry?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

        I am sure that the US blockade makes life exponentially harder. Self reliance is one thing but access to raw materials is another.

        OTOH they seem like a resilient people. If there’s anywhere on Earth that exudes “Fine; I’ll do it myself” energy when dealing with America, Cuba is it. I hope this makes them even stronger. I hope they find a way to completely circumvent America. I actually hope that for the whole world.

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          they definitely do punch above their weightclass, they’ve developed a vaccine against a certain type of pulmonary cancer, developed their own covid vaccine etc.

          the thing is the lack of money and professionals to keep the system running.

          apparently since the new constitution of of 2019 was approved, which amongst other things (re)affirmed the right of private property and foreign investments and opens the economy up to a market economy, the state has been reducing funding for education and health systems, which is especially apparent in rural areas. The direction to a more privately owned system is set and taken.

          a fairly omnipresent example is medicines: during covid the state dropped the customs duty on medicine, in order to alleviate supply chain problems, so individuals could import medicine from around the world. this trend is ongoing, you will see a lot of whatsapp statuses of people offering and looking for certain types of medicines. Also a lot of selling and reselling of any imported goods such as generators, motorbikes, air conditioning, etc. is going on through whatsapp and other social media market places. a lot of people have internet on their mobile phones nowadays, they no longer rely on “el paquete”.

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            Could you elaborate a bit more on the issues around shortages of funding and professionals?

            My understanding was that Cuba has had one of the highest doctor-to-population ratios in the world, and that its medical schools were often treated almost like a public works project to train large numbers of physicians.

            Is it an issue of brain drain (graduate qualifying and then leaving for greener pastures?)

            (I’m not doubting what you say btw; just trying to address my own ignorance).

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              i’m just relaying on what my cuban friends have told me: yes, it’s mostly brain drain on one side, and on the other hand there is ever less resources due to dwindling tourism and ever more expensive petrol. at the same time that more resources are injected into these tourist and prestige areas where you have water and electricity 24/7 while the costs to maintain them are ever rising. i heard of local schools in the escambray mountains where there is no teachers anymore, and it’s neighbours themselves that are not qualified in a teachers capacity that take care of teaching the few remaining children. so less resources that are more concentrated. also Cuba is huge and has many different regions, what is true for Havana and los Cayos is not true for the eastern and southern regions, i assume the impacts vary but all go in the same direction

              and yeah, the paquete was the bomb :)

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    Why is it always “national security”? Make it “national interests” or maybe “national priorities”. They are more honest, yes, but also less transparently excuses.

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      Because the Department of Homeland Security has broad powers and very little checks and balances to it’s discretionary use by the Executive branch. It’s the thing people have been warning against since it’s creation after 9/11.

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    Donald Trump’s administration has declared Cuba “an unusual and extraordinary threat” to U.S. national security.

    Which country isn’t considered a threat to american “national security” at this point

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      It is quite funny that Cuba, a small, relatively poor country that has been embargoed for decades, is considered an unusual and extraordinary threat to American national security, compared to countries with fission weapons.

      What, do they have antimatter or something?

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    Maybe they can get a deal for electric cars and solar with China? Cuba is one of those places that could use an 800lb gorilla in their corner.

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    Given that Cuba’s entire grid has now failed, sewage is backing up into the streets, and nobody has access to food, water, medicine, or communications, I doubt a few Teslas are going to save them. Cuba is about to be known for mass starvation and disease, not electric vehicles.

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      The thing is that all this isnt surprising to Cubans at all. They have always more or less lived like this, which is why there has been an ongoing decade long trend to off grid or local grid solar. Also this is of course not about Teslas lmao. A basic electric vehicle is like the simplest fucking device ever. You can build an electric scooter for super cheap. Also turning something like one of these tricycles from gas powered to electric saves a lot of cost.

      In the Alamar neighborhood on the outskirts of Havana, Eugenio Gainza weaves a state-run rickshaw-style electric tricycle over the rutted roads, picking up passengers. “We make 16 trips a day,” he says. “There is no fuel. This is the only means of transportation supporting this area.”

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        It’s one thing to go off-grid when your country has a functioning infrastructure and supply lines. It’s more than a little different when pretty much everything has collapsed, people are starving and desperate, and disease is running rampant due to lack of clean water and sanitation. I really don’t think many people in Cuba right now are thinking thank GOD I have my electric scooter!

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    Most of the old V8s had been replaced with Lada 4 cylinders by the 90s.

    It wasn’t romantic that they were stuck with 50s cars, then forced to keep them running with Soviet spare parts.

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    Considering that Cuba’s electrical generation is nearly 100% fossil fuels, I don’t see how this makes sense.