• UltraMagnus@startrek.website
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    The fact that the negligent discharges often involve experienced officers should be a wake up call that ICEs recent behavior isn’t new or just because of Trump - the incompetence is baked in.

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      That’s what’s surprising. All the shootings, intentional and otherwise, are exactly the result you’d expect from adding a bunch of untrained morons to the group. But most of the incidents are from dudes with 5+ years experience. What the fuck.

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    Even if they are assholes, celebrating the harm/death of people isn’t right. These comments are disgusting

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      This comment is getting reported. I’m not going to remove it, even though it’s a dumbass thing to say. Just take it apart with your own comment if you want, there’s no benefit to anyone if I silence it.

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      They are kidnapping, torturing, starving, raping, and killing innocent people.
      Celebrating their harm/death is definitely the right call here.

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        Would you want me to celebrate the death sentence of your dog because it went and killed all my family?

        In this crappy example here, whose at fault? Not the dog. But you. You who didn’t monitor him closely enough to prevent the tragedy.

        What I want to say here is that we shouldn’t hate on the officers themselves, but on the government which created ICE in the first place. The officer could be a forced in a way or in another to do what he is doing, and isn’t particularly keen of doing it, his only goal being of bringing money to feed his family back home. (Maybe I’m wrong on who are the people who works at ICE).

        So celebrating their harm/death is not the correct move if we want all of this to stop.

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            That’s it, I’m stopping here, if people prefer commenting on the words I use, instead of on what I’m saying, this debate will not go anywhere.

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        Actually I recently discovered Lemmy while making research on the Fediverse. And your accusation of me being a fascist means that you didn’t understand what I wrote. I despise them just as much as you if you want to know everything.

        And why would I even wait 4 hours from the creation of my account to my first comment to start posting my “fascist-appeasing nonsense”? If what you were saying was true my account would the age of my first comment (which isn’t even a “fascist-appeasing nonsense” one)

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      OH NO, won’t some one think about the illegally occupying paramilitary groups safety and feelings? What if they pull a mussel sending someone to a concentration camp or slip while keeling on a neck? Wouldn’t that be horrific? Have some compassion for our boys in mask you monsters. Those illegals wont torture and lynch themselves without us. /s

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        Well you see that wasn’t the conclusion I was hoping for you to come to. I have never said that what they did is correct, and that we should all consider their feelings. I have just said that in the general sense, celebrating the death of another is wrong.

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          Thy are also an origination killing people and publicly celebrating the murders as an act of “counter terrorism”. You don’t sign up for the gestapo for good vibes.

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        Even if. We shouldn’t celebrate the death of another. Don’t you find that just a tiny bit wrong?

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          Don’t you find that just a tiny bit wrong?

          No. Not for these people, not even a tiny bit. I’ll sleep like a baby.

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          I find the detention, shooting, and killing of innocent lives to be abhorrent. I ain’t going to cry for the people perpetrating this violence, and I wish violence upon them. If they die, so be it. 1 less person killing innocent lives.

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          I’m not celebrating any of this, to be very clear. It’s more of a grim satisfaction. We departed ages ago from whether it’s right or wrong. They’re fascists. And they’re grossly incompetent. I am not upset by news that those doing vast and needless harm to innocent people are victim of their own incompetence and negligence. I’ll admit to some schadenfreude and move on with my life.

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          Don’t you find that just a tiny bit wrong?

          Nope.

          I save my empathy for people who actually have empathy of their own.

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        When did I ever support them? Did you even understand what I wrote? I said that celebrating the death of human beings isn’t right, that’s all.

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            If this is the way you feel, then so be it… I would’ve tried anyway. Good luck to y’all in the USA.

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      Are people really downvoting this? Well this only shows to us the human nature, we really are all despicable.

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        Not all humans are equal. These assholes are guilty of crimes against humanity, so any one less of them by any means makes a better world.