Vegans had a 40% higher risk of bowel cancer when compared with meat eaters.
Regarding vegetarians and cancer yes, but there are also many studies that show that a moderate intake of meat is beneficial to your health. And this study doe NOT show the less meat the better.
Also a lot of studies including this one, show that some nutrients are hard to obtain as a vegan, so you need supplements to stay healthy.
I’m not the person you responded to. But I feel personally attacked by your last sentence. How dare you. That is the way of the internet comment section. What kind of world would we live in if people actually read the article?
Yes I am aware that this is a cultural thing among many people. And responses by people that read the article can seem confusing.
Admittedly I do it myself sometimes, but in this case that regards peoples health, I think a clarification was in place. 😋
Interesting how they call out vitamin B and calcium. Ovo/lactose vegetarians have just as much dairy as meat eaters and probably eat even more calcium-rich foods like kale and other greens. Most dairy substitutes are calcium fortified as well.
Yes the calcium part is outright weird? Regarding B vitamin I think it’s some specific B vitamins like B12, definitely not all of them.
I think there may have been some journalistic misunderstanding, because it is mentioned in context with Vegans, while the article also seems to lump the 2 together at times. Which is a problem IMO, because there’s a huge difference between Vegetarian that drink milk and eat fish and eggs, and a Vegan that eat zero animal products.
I agree with everything you said, except for one point. Vegetarians by definition do not eat fish, pescatarian is likely the word you are looking for as they eat everything you listed with the inclusion of fish.
It’s a common misunderstanding, not exactly sure where it stems from. When I was a vegetarian many years ago it wouldn’t be uncommon for people to offer me fish.
You’re correct that vegetarians don’t eat fish. People only eat fish instead of other meats are called “pescatarians”, as someone mentioned earlier.
However, “vegetarian” refers to people with diets of mostly plants and sometimes animal byproducts that don’t require killing the animal (like milk and eggs).
It can be confusing because there’s sort of a tree of consumption/diets and there are a lot of terms, and some of the terms sound similar. Hope this helps.
Here it means less than 150g per day. But there is no minimum recommendation AFAIK, probably because most people eat too much.
So optimal amount is a bit murky. It probably also varies depending of what types of meat you eat. It is generally understood that chicken is better for your health than red meat.
150gr is moderate ?! Daaaaamn. TIL our family is moderate as fuck then. More than 150 is just not feeling okay. We are pushing to 200 when it’s steak day. I’m curious what’s the average now.
I live in Denmark, and we were highest on meat consumption in 2002, but in 2020 the amount of meat consumed per person was cut by more than half!
So the highest number was in 2002 with 146 kg per year per person, or 397 gr per day, more than double the recommendation on average!
Supermarkets here are making smaller packages, and beef is now taxed to reduce consumption of that in particular. Also because it is considered more environmentally harmful than other types of meat.
Regarding vegetarians and cancer yes, but there are also many studies that show that a moderate intake of meat is beneficial to your health. And this study doe NOT show the less meat the better.
Also a lot of studies including this one, show that some nutrients are hard to obtain as a vegan, so you need supplements to stay healthy.
I’m not the person you responded to. But I feel personally attacked by your last sentence. How dare you. That is the way of the internet comment section. What kind of world would we live in if people actually read the article?
Yes I am aware that this is a cultural thing among many people. And responses by people that read the article can seem confusing.
Admittedly I do it myself sometimes, but in this case that regards peoples health, I think a clarification was in place. 😋
Interesting how they call out vitamin B and calcium. Ovo/lactose vegetarians have just as much dairy as meat eaters and probably eat even more calcium-rich foods like kale and other greens. Most dairy substitutes are calcium fortified as well.
Yes the calcium part is outright weird? Regarding B vitamin I think it’s some specific B vitamins like B12, definitely not all of them.
I think there may have been some journalistic misunderstanding, because it is mentioned in context with Vegans, while the article also seems to lump the 2 together at times. Which is a problem IMO, because there’s a huge difference between Vegetarian that drink milk and eat fish and eggs, and a Vegan that eat zero animal products.
I agree with everything you said, except for one point. Vegetarians by definition do not eat fish, pescatarian is likely the word you are looking for as they eat everything you listed with the inclusion of fish.
Ah ok I thought fish was included, because I’ve known some who call themselves vegetarians who eat fish.
It’s a common misunderstanding, not exactly sure where it stems from. When I was a vegetarian many years ago it wouldn’t be uncommon for people to offer me fish.
Maybe it comes from the distinction between meat and fish that stems from fasting in Catholicism.
Vegetarians don’t drink milk or eat fish and eggs
You’re correct that vegetarians don’t eat fish. People only eat fish instead of other meats are called “pescatarians”, as someone mentioned earlier.
However, “vegetarian” refers to people with diets of mostly plants and sometimes animal byproducts that don’t require killing the animal (like milk and eggs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism
The specific subset of vegetarians who don’t eat or use any animal byproducts are called “vegans”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
It can be confusing because there’s sort of a tree of consumption/diets and there are a lot of terms, and some of the terms sound similar. Hope this helps.
Lacto-ovo-vegetarians aren’t vegetarians, they’re carnists
Not at forms of calcium are the same.
Do we know what moderate means?
Here it means less than 150g per day. But there is no minimum recommendation AFAIK, probably because most people eat too much.
So optimal amount is a bit murky. It probably also varies depending of what types of meat you eat. It is generally understood that chicken is better for your health than red meat.
150gr is moderate ?! Daaaaamn. TIL our family is moderate as fuck then. More than 150 is just not feeling okay. We are pushing to 200 when it’s steak day. I’m curious what’s the average now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption
I live in Denmark, and we were highest on meat consumption in 2002, but in 2020 the amount of meat consumed per person was cut by more than half!
So the highest number was in 2002 with 146 kg per year per person, or 397 gr per day, more than double the recommendation on average!
Supermarkets here are making smaller packages, and beef is now taxed to reduce consumption of that in particular. Also because it is considered more environmentally harmful than other types of meat.