You don’t say… I was sure he was going to admit to being a pedophile and child rapist.
Just goes to show ya, you can never be sure about these things.
The question what did you get to say this Bill Clinton?
Sure, and I have a 20cm long cock
Since when is “i didn’t know” a get out of jail free card?
Since when has associating with somebody been a crime?
You can have dinner with your neighbor and not be in trouble when it’s discovered he’s a serial killer. Hell, you can dinner with somebody you know is a mob boss.
It’s when you’re involved in the actual commission of crimes (including covering up crimes, or in various cases but reporting your knowledge of a particular criminal act) that it becomes an “go to jail” type issue.
That also doesn’t justify hanging out with repugnant criminals from a moral perspective, but moral and go-directly-to-jail criminal actions are not the same thing.
Depends on what you don’t know and when you didn’t know it.
All crimes have requirements. Most crimes require that the person “know” or “intendted” to engage in the criminal behavior. Sometimes the knowledge requirement is subjective, but mostly it’s objective…i.e. what would a reasonable person have known under the same circumstances. Which means that being drunk or otherwise impaired is rarely a defense to a crime requiring knowledge or awareness. A notable exception is statutory rape of a minor in the US; you can legitimately think they are of age when you screw… But if they are a minor it’s rape regardless.
The knowledge requirement pertains to factual knowledge of the circumstance (i.e. you reasonably knew the property wasn’t yours when you took it). Ignorance of the law is not a defense. Everyone has implied knowledge of every law as soon as it’s codified. Fuckin’ bullshit, especially the younger and poorer you are.
It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.
So, he lied, as expected.
It’s okay if you lie to Congress about this one subject, and several others. They don’t really want to know. They’re just trying to get re-elected. This is one more reason we need term limits for Congress.
Doubt he lied about the second part at least. He probably did make sure all the ones he was with were at least 18. Considering that Trump’s admin has the Epstein files, they’d totally run him over if they had evidence otherwise, and they definitely could easily know if he lied or not on that. He knows they don’t, that’s why he testified.
Epstein was pretty careful not to talk about actual crimes in a way that would have been recorded. There are numerous instances of him saying they need to take a conversation offline.
Now that Bill and Hillary have testified, it’s time for Trump and Melania.
Ok sure
Just like when he told the entire USA “I did not. have. sexual relations with that woman. Ms. Lewinsky…”
But then he actually did.
That depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is.
Seriously, though, he stated later that he was interpreting the definition of “sexual relations” to mean that he had touched her in sexual ways. Apparently he was only ever on the receiving end, and therefore his claim was that she had “sexual relations” with him, but not vice versa. In his view, his response followed the letter of the law, if not the spirit of the law. He wasn’t found guilty of perjury, so apparently he wasn’t entirely wrong, legally speaking.
Now … Is he a POS who cheated on his wife? Maybe. The Republican rumor mill (AKA Rush Limbaugh) claimed for years that they had an open marriage and were both sleeping with other people. That’s the sort of thing that a lot of people are okay with now, but it was not talked about in polite society in the '90s. I’ve always thought that if Hillary was willing to stand by him after everything that came out, then we probably shouldn’t judge him on her behalf.
Well there was the whole cigar thing. Either way, we know he’s wiling to lie to the world.
Since when is consensually sticking your dick in someone’s mouth not a sexual touch?? “Sexual” is literally the only way to describe that.
I don’t know if it makes sense to view their marriage through the lens of normal romance. I see them as having devoted their lives to building a political dynasty, and I think they wouldn’t get divorced unless it served that end.
I agree. People get married for all kinds of reasons. They may have married for political power, and they may well have an open marriage. Nobody really knows what happens in anyone else’s relationship.
Down vote away but I’ve always agreed with Clinton’s definition. If your buddy bragged that they had sex with somebody and it turned out they only got a BJ, then I’d call them a liar.
But if she turned out to be a minor, “my buddy” is still a child rapist. The whole point of the phrase “sexual relations” is to make it inexact enough to include all sexual acts. How anyone can believe someone getting their dick sucked is uninvolved in the act is just baffling.
Your buddy would have also bragged about the fact that he used her pussy as a humidor instead of trying to talk about the definition of is.
Haha no surprise there. I said a few weeks ago in a comment this is what will happen and got massively down voted. Because if he admitted that he knew of the crimes, then he is 1. guilty for doing nothing about it despite being in power or adjacent to powerful people, or 2. is a pedo himself. So all he can do is say he knew nothing in order to save his own ass.
The issue with doing this under oath is that if any evidence comes out to the contrary it’s an easy conviction. Not that he hasn’t weasled around lying under oath before, but it is higher stakes than just making a public statement.
Well that’s depressing because it means he thinks the fascism will win.
He’s a part of the system cabal, of course he knows what the aim is
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It either means he legitimately didn’t know anything or that he doesn’t think there is any evidence to support he did know/did anything. I’m pretty sure if they had anything concrete on him, the Trump admin would have gone after him, simply to divert away from everything theyre doing.
Bill is lying, trump raped kids, Bill was there, he needs to be arrested.
Far as I’m concerned, those two could share a cozy cell.
Might as well lie, not like laws matter anymore.
It wouldn’t shock me to find otherwise, but Clinton seems smart enough to have kept it to ‘day of 18 year olds’. Lots of similar language as the impeachment and seems to be toeing the same line.
Doesn’t matter, if they were trafficked it’s illegal regardless.
Yeah, but he knows that’s harder to prove in court (that he knew). He’s doing this as a game of chicken against Republicans - he knows he’s in the clear for the pedo charges, but if they try pushing further on the trafficking one, he can start calling names into court to also testify under oath. Names like Trump.
He’s also a malicious person, but he’s not brain dead stupid like Trump either. This is his political play to clear his name and to not be associated with pedophilia primarily.
So many people gloss over that fact.
Depends on what your definition of is… Is.
I… did not… inhale.
That’s… not what I asked you, Bill.
I did not have sex with that woman.
Child*
And we can trust the Clinton’s due to…
Checks notes
Them lying to the American public about Bill’s sex scandals for over 30 years.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-2016-60-minutes-1992-214275/
Bills not the worst, but that doesn’t make him a good guy. And Hillary’s most consistent trait is covering up for him.
Bill may be special enough his tapes are safe with Mossad or Maxwell’s family. Epstein had a painting of Bill in a dress over his mantel, flew with him 20+ times, Epstein took pride in that relationship.
My bet is on Bill covering up that he’s Bi. To the right wing (and that includes nearly all Democrats these days), being bi is still the same as being gay, especially if you’re a guy. Probably why he helped start the rainbow capitalism push.
That seems too statistically unlikely with Trump blowing Bubba and Bush Sr being into boys. I’m gonna assume they kept inviting him out to party and kept dropping the age of the girls until they had blackmail. Conservative way to go after a big fish like Bill that would probably work if he’s never heard of the CIA / Mossad project
I mean there’s a good chance Clinton is Bubba
Arnold Palmer was sometimes known as Bubba. Trump has some very interesting quotes about seeing him in the showers at the club
It’s wild how we still learn more and more about Epstein’s person.
He was obviously a sick bastard, but I don’t think he was the worst of the lot.
He was probably more like the frat boy whose parents were always out, so everyone would party at his place. He was thrilled with being the host of it, so he could mingle with the powerful people. If he was truly the mastermind behind all the illegal shit, it seems unlikely that he’d also be stupid enough to write all those files and keep trophy pictures of rich people.
This never made much sense to me, until I realized that someone else is behind arranging the worst of it.
This would explain how he had both ordinary and completely wild illegal shit going on at the same time.
Trump plays a larger role in it, but I also don’t think he is the mastermind behind it. He was allowed access because he took part in and knows the people doing the human trafficking.
I don’t think we know who called the shots in the group yet.
It’s a CIA Mossad joint op and Mossad is leading the show. Maxwell is effective royalty, the operation is hers. Epstein was the CIA’s guy.
Bill and Hilary may not be clean, but they’re being used by Trump and his child-raping ilk as the fall guys.
The fact that the rest of the scum hasn’t been dragged in kicking and screaming by their hair by Comer and conveniently allowed to go on a last minute “Trip” shows how much disrespect there is for the justice system.
It’s a complete kangaroo court designed to make the Clinton’s look bad while the other scum flee.
Republican voters must really be so much more fucking stupid than I thought or something, because the plan to have these two in court and nobody else hasn’t got billionaire blood running in he street, and it shows. Republicans must really approve of violent child rape and murder… absolute filth, the lot of them.
I can’t imagine that they are actually guilty in this case. The FBI/DOJ have been scrubbing Trump as hard as possible from the files for the past year.
If they found anything truly incriminating there is no way they wouldn’t have already dropped them.
They’ve been trying to find anything on the Clintons for 30+ years. It would let in a heartbeat if there was anything concrete.
But with this admin more than most.
It would be the perfect distraction for Trump’s base.
How could you not trust a face like that?:
Why would you think people want to see giant pictures of pedophiles like that?
Seriously, I don’t know why anyone does that, but maybe it’s because I end up blocking them to see if they reply with any logical reason
probably a good way to reinforce in peoples heads that Clinton associated with him
You mean, like the thing he just said, under oath, in a court of law? Way to nail that one on the head!
You doing okay, friend? I’m not sure my message required that much ire
Well that would seem pretty pointless considering the post they’re commenting on…
But I was more ranting about how people just embed giant pictures in their comments.
And the type of people who embed pictures, probably also don’t feel like anything anywhere is ever obvious enough
Du fuk? Da hell you talkin’ bout?
At this rate the establishment will be pushing Hillary as the only legitimate candidate to challenge Republicans in 2028.
She’ll definitely be old enough by then.
If they had a smoking gun video on that asshole, it would leak.
Probably regardless of which part of him was showing
