• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    What are tou talking about?

    Falcon 9 is fine.

    Starship & Booster are continuously improving. When you see that a starship blew up, what’s probably conveniently left off from the headlines you read is its a major revision. New engines, longer, different flaps etc. The last one went up and down wonderfully. The next one launching is v3 and has the latest engines and hundreds of changes and will probably go boom.

    In no way is SpaceX messing up here though.

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      8 hours ago

      Nobody has ever developed a rocket in the open like this before

      dude, please read up on the space race. we have designed rockets in the open before. they blew up far less frequently.

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        8 hours ago

        None of that was like what SpaceX is doing.

        There were failures in the race and they were testing things, but failures weren’t the expected outcomes and part of the planned development cycle.

        SpaceX has built a manufacturing line to churn these things out and is like we think this might work, let’s try it in flight hardware. Oh okay that didnt work, let’s try something else. Oh okay that did work now, but if we do this does it still work because if it does we can eek out 2% more performance. Oh shit now we have a brand new mark 2 engine. Does it sill work?

        Starships blowing up is part of how they are iterating. No one else has done it this way.

        The government cant handle things like this because people like you look at it as a failure and shit gets shut down. If they IPO its also going to cause issues for the same reason.

        Meanwhile SpaceX has designed, built, flew and landed two orbital boosters before anyone landed one. They fucking caught it in chopsticks.

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            8 hours ago

            Like deliver 100 tonnes to the moons surface in a single ship?

            What do you think they’re failing at so badly compared to 60 years ago.

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              Like deliver 100 tonnes to the moons surface in a single ship?

              When does it arrive? Something as spectacular as that they’re probably launching twice a week.

              Not as good as my rocket though, it’s powered by Ai and does three laps around the moon powered by bandwidth lazers.

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              I’m tired and don’t have the name of the specific parts in my head right now and don’t feel like looking them up. Shit we used to be able to make that is essential to manned spaceflight, that since we decided to get rid of the space shuttle now no longer gets made by anyone. no company nor person has the expertise to simply follow the patents. That’s what trade secrets are for. In short, the supply chain broke and it has not been fixed.

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                7 hours ago

                Well, if my google search is right, they’ve already done 15 crewed flights (there/back so 30) with the longest duration in the capsule being over 3 days, and there are people on the ISS, so whatever it is, isn’t needed for any of that manned spaceflight which makes me think its just something that allows for an extended trip, and having a bigger ship, opens the possibilities of other solutions.

                For example, they can just take a less complicated but larger CO2 scrubber and/or more oxygen instead of having to use a super complicated one with a material we maybe can’t re-create due to space/weight constraints. They’ll have 100 tonnes to work with. 1 tonne of oxygen would last a small crew for years.

                I’m tired as well, I’m going to head off to bed.

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      The pic reminds me of a youtuber who debunks SpaceX bullshit almost exclusively. I don’t remember the specifics, but he claimed that the v3 seen here is basically a fantasy.

      Seriously, do not trust Musk to build something that works reliably under high stress. Esp. do not entrust human beings to anything Musk builds.