• ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    Weren’t a bunch of analysis predicting this? The trump administration had apparently requested that Israel strike first to provide a flimsy excuse for firing their own missiles at Iran when the Ayatollah and his gang inevitably retaliates against Israel.

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      10 hours ago

      We were also predicting that israel would use their epstein blackmail to start their forever war. We were right.

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      12 hours ago

      Israel has already stated officially that this was a joint attack with the US.

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        11 hours ago

        I hope Iranian civilians stay safe. As for the government? Don’t care.

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        12 hours ago

        This is disgusting. The Zionists are bombing Iran and this is your reaction? Why are you running propaganda for the Zionists?

        • abbadon420@sh.itjust.works
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          11 hours ago

          How is this propaganda? The iranian government literally killed thousands of students who were protesting in the streets only a few weeks ago.

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            7 hours ago

            Well in this case, Casey is literally an LLM bot so it’s probably propaganda. Check their modlog.

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            11 hours ago

            Guys, guys. Chill.

            Both of these countries are killing their own civilian population. But now one of them is also killing the other country’s population as well. Probably soon to be joined by the other doing the same in return.

            Let me just be the anarchist in the room and say fuck both of these countries. Fuck every country. We shouldn’t have countries. And we especially shouldn’t have countries that kill people, no matter which side of an imaginary line they’re killing people on.

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              11 hours ago

              One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs, the other is dropping them, don’t both sides this shit because Iran isn’t perfect.

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                10 hours ago

                I’m not trying to ‘both sides’ this shit as much as I’m trying to ‘no sides’ this shit.

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                  10 hours ago

                  You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs. The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage. You are not supporting the Iranian people’s struggle by opposing the state protecting them from your state.

                  • MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip
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                    10 hours ago

                    You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs.

                    Ahh, good old collective responsibility. Always there when you need it!

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                    10 hours ago

                    The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage.

                    I don’t think the bloodthirsty warhawks are encouraging the abolishment of all states, especially the ones that kill people. And, yes, especially the one I live in.

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                10 hours ago

                One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs

                Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians? Or are you conflating Israel’s actions in Palestine with this?

                I’m not going to be upset about the Iranian government getting killed, any more than I would be if Iran launched a counter-attack on Mar-a-Lago and killed Trump, or Netanyahu. In fact, I hope that happens. Fuck ‘em all.

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            11 hours ago

            Israel has murdered at least 21,000 CHILDREN over the past 30 months. To think that they have any moral standing is moronic at best, but more likely pure evil.

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              11 hours ago

              You’re referring to confirmed violent deaths. The number of victims including food deprivation, lack of medicine and sanitation and consequent diseases since Oct 7th is above half a million, about half of them children.

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                9 hours ago

                Yes, I’m only referencing deaths attributed to direct military action - or the IDF’s direct murder of children with bullets and bombs. This is not to minimize the horror they have inflicted through genocidal policy.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be belligerent or anything, just wanted to bring attention to it. Thanks for your reminder of the violence of the Zionist entity, we will not forget this

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              10 hours ago

              …and the sky is blue. But how is this propaganda? How is invading another country, propaganda for zionists?

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                9 hours ago

                I think they mean that you can’t fully trust the narrative about protests you read in the Western media. There is Israeli and US involvement in those protests trying to instigate regime change.

                So the OP above is parroting Israeli/US propaganda by saying the protests are a justification for the latest military action.

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                9 hours ago

                Making a statement that minimizes state violence because it’s against a state that undertakes state violence is still minimizing state violence. In this instance it is minimizing the violence of a genocidal state that is far more violent than the state it is attacking for undertaking state violence.

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            11 hours ago

            So Israel and the United States are going to respond by murdering the rest of them? When you do know that they bomb indiscriminately correct? I just don’t understand your argument here. If you’re concerned about civilian deaths how could you be supportive of this. They literally bomb hospitals.